Originally posted by Brian45
Hi Ozark . You already know my view ( the end is comming ) .
I began the debate by showing sientific evedence that the earth is on a downward spiral , and neither you nor parousia gave any solid substantual evidence to prove otherwise . then you both began to use mumbo jumbo to validate your point ..
It was then that I realised that there was no way you would ever agree with me or the scientists about the destrution of the earths ecosystem and where its heading .
If you were to agree that the world is slowly ending , you would have to dump preterism , and thats why you guys would rather stick your head under the pillow and pretend you don't see or use mumbo jumbo to validate your point .
Brian45
I will have to agree with manifestation. World without end is not a major premise of Preterism, and moreover Preterism is not dependent upon this idea. You are definitely straining out a nat a swallowing a camel. What you have here is a case of science verses the Bible on this matter. You have sided with science, and the preterists have sided with the Bible. Science verses the Bible is not what eschatology concerns itself with. If you want to disprove Preterism, you are going to have to come after its major points.
You are going to have to deal with things like the time statements of the New Testament. You will have to explain why Jesus stood face to face with many people and said that they personally would see the Son of Man come in glory. You will have to explain why ALL of the apostles anticipated the return of Christ in their generation. You will have to explain why words like "soon" and "quickly" do not really mean soon and quickly but over 2000 years.
You will have to explain why Jesus said the kingdom of God was near. Yet, according to the futurists His present day church will not even get to experience it. You will have explain why Jesus said the kingdom of God is within us, it comes without observation, and it is not of this world. Yet, futurists are looking for a kingdom that is not within us, comes with observation, and is of this world.
I am afraid all the science in the world will not help you with these things. And they are only a few of the majors. Oh, and no mumbo jumbo please.
Ozark
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