[open]Zeal but not according to Knowlege... What does this mean?[open/]

Tishri1 · Apr 26, 2006

What does this verse mean to you?

Romans 10:2-3 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge. 3 For not knowing about God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God.

I think this means there are many that have zeal for ABBA, but with out knowlege of ABBA's Torah, they seek to establish their own Torah and refused to subject them selves to the true solid teaching and instruction found in ABBA's Word.... :sigh:

Toney · Apr 26, 2006

I was just so darn delighted to see a thread with [OPEN] tags that I thought I would post to it.

Zeal without knowledge. Feet going one way, mouths going another.

Paul was probably as guilty of this as anyone else.

Commit acts of loving kindness and permit people to believe what they wish to believe in peace. Religious tolerance is an act of loving kindness and hastens the coming of the messiah.

Shalom

Tishri1 · Apr 26, 2006

without this thread turning into a debate about Paul....I wonder now how I ever survived understanding the Bible with out a solid foundation in the Old Testiment, the first five books in particular.

I was always guessing at what things ment and never really knew what the foundation for my beliefs were.....I would slice and dice and splice and come up with all kinds of theology but never sought to figure out what ABBA's Theology was

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It is a dangerous thing to handle the word so carelessly but I was ignorant of the one thing that I needed....a good foundation of knowlege in the Torah....and not to then get all legalistic either, just to have a sure foundation which ABBA gave us thru His Word..... :doh:

Wavy · Apr 26, 2006

It is like the same principle here:

[bible]John 16:2[/bible]

They thought they were doing what they were doing (walking in unbelief) because it was right and that the believers were heretics. This they did by denying that they need Christ as their righteousness unto eternal life, and making the law their righteousness (when it condemns them rather than justifies them).

The thing is, as Paul says in verse 4, they don't realize that the law is leading them to Messiah (hence he is the goal/purpose of the law although it is translated "end").

[bible]John 5:39-40[/bible]

The scriptures point them toward a righteousness apart from the law that justifies them:

[bible]Isaiah 45:22-25[/bible]

stone · Apr 26, 2006

Tishri1 said:
without this thread turning into a debate about Paul....I wonder now how I ever survived understanding the Bible with out a solid foundation in the Old Testiment, the first five books in particular.

I was always guessing at what things ment and never really knew what the foundation for my beliefs were.....I would slice and dice and splice and come up with all kinds of theology but never sought to figure out what ABBA's Theology was....

It is a dangerous thing to handle the word so carelessly but I was ignorant of the one thing that I needed....a good foundation of knowlege in the Torah....and not to then get all legalistic either, just to have a sure foundation which ABBA gave us thru His Word.....

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Tishri1 again.

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