I havn`t read the whole thread yet but up to this point , I haven`t seen much scripture from those against the faith movement. So far , they have been extreamly unconvincing???
I thaught it was worth re-posting this for you Jewel because you feel that the faith movement hasn`t given any scripture. This with other scriptures were presented a few pages ago before you came into the discusion. It took me all of 5 minutes to find them , If I did a scriptual study , I could present heaps of situations and issues that will prove that the faith movement is a biblical movement. I am shore you feel you could prove other wise
Isn`t it strange how we all come to diffrent biblical understandings Jewel
Hear is some scriptures that say that without "BELIEVING, we cant receive. SO "according to your faith be it unto you". I wont bother explaining them to say what I want them to mean because they speak for themselves.Maybe you could explain some of these before I explain what I see in the scriptures you have just braught up.
Mark 16
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
John 14
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Luke 8:50
But when Jesus heard it, he answered him, saying, Fear not: believe only, and she shall be made whole.
Matthew 21:22
And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.
Matthew 8:13
And Jesus said unto the centurion, Go thy way; and as thou hast believed, so be it done unto thee. And his servant was healed in the selfsame hour.
Mark 9:23
Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
Mark 11:23
For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
Mark 11:24
Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 4:53
So the father knew that it was at the same hour, in the which Jesus said unto him, Thy son liveth: and himself believed, and his whole house.
That was on just one word , "believe".
Should I do an hour study , Wow , I could come up with heaps of situations and issues in the bible , I shorely don`t need to doi that do I , we all know that the whole bible is all about faith don`t we
peace
Celtic