The Lord detests Idolatry
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and yet God commanded there to be images of angels on the veil in teh tabernacle and angels on the Ark of the Covenant, and there were statutes of bulls outside the Temple. how very interesting...
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Wealth. Gross displays of weath and power. Professional athletes. All of these are worshipped far more often than a statue of the Mother of God.
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lismore said:
Then you need to read the Bible, for God commanded images to be made.
Well, there are images in the Europa Synagogue, and in every Orthodox Christian Church, so your assertion is clearly false.
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eoe said:Here are the idols that are worshipped in more Christian churches than any statue.
Hey, if I prayed for that car, would I be an idolator?
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Then what?
And what else?
Put all of this WHERE?!?!??!!?!
HUH!?!?!
Lismore you are dead wrong. Have Pentecostals removed Exodus from their bibles at this point?
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Scott_LaFrance said:
I agree
. Your the first person to say that. Thankyou very much. Well done.In a friendly way, could you present any evidence that God has sanctioned the images in the RCC church?
I would be obliged.
God Bless
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For all of the legalists, that function by the letter of the Law, do not forget to run away from this abomination. Run awaaaaay.
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God didn't seem to have a problem with this, in fact He liked it so much He came and dwelt within :
1 Kings 7:20 And again other chapiters in the top of the pillars above, according to the measure of the pillar over against the network: and of pomegranates there were two hundred in rows round about the other chapiter.
21 And he set up the two pillars in the porch of the temple: and when he had set up the pillar on the right hand, he called the name thereof Jachin: in like manner he set up the second pillar, and called the name thereof Booz. 22 And upon the tops of the pillars he made lily work: so the work of the pillars was finished. 23 He made also a molten sea of ten cubits from brim to brim, round all about; the height of it was five cubits, and a line of thirty cubits compassed it round about. 24 And a graven work under the brim of it compassed it, for ten cubits going about the sea: there were two rows cast of chamfered sculptures. 25 And it stood upon twelve oxen, of which three looked towards the north, and three towards the west, and three towards the south, and three towards the east, and the sea was above upon them, and their hinder parts were all hid within.
26 And the laver was a handbreadth thick: and the brim thereof was like the brim of a cup, or the leaf of a crisped lily: it contained two thousand bates. 27 And he made ten bases of brass, every base was four cubits in length, and four cubits in breadth, and three cubits high. 28 And the work itself of the bases, was intergraven: and there were gravings between the joinings. 29 And between the little crowns and the ledges were lions, and oxen, and cherubims: and in the joinings likewise above: and under the lions and oxen, as it were bands of brass hanging down. 30 And every base had four wheels, and axletrees of brass: and at the four sides were undersetters under the laver molten, looking one against another.
31 The mouth also of the laver within, was in the top of the chapiter: and that which appeared without, was of one cubit all round, and together it was one cubit and a half: and in the corners of the pillars were divers engravings: and the spaces between the pillars were square, not round. 32 And the four wheels, which were at the four corners of the base, were joined one to another under the base: the height of a wheel was a cubit and a half. 33 And they were such wheels as are used to be made in a chariot: and their axletrees, and spokes, and strakes, and naves, were all east.
34 And the four undersetters that were at every corner of each base, were of the base itself cast and joined together. 35 And in the top of the base there was a round compass of half a cubit, so wrought that the laver might be set thereon, having its gravings, and divers sculptures of itself.
36 He engraved also in those plates, which were of brass. and in the corners, cherubims, and lions, and palm trees, in likeness of a man standing, so that they seemed not to be engraven, but added round about. 37 After this manner he made ten bases, of one casting and measure, and the like graving. 38 He made also ten lavers of brass: one laver contained four bases, and was of four cubits: and upon every base, in all ten, he put as many lavers. 39 And he set the ten bases, five on the right side of the temple, and five on the left: and the sea he put on the right side of the temple over against the east southward. 40 And Hiram made caldrons, and shovels, and basins, and finished all the work of king Solomon in the temple of the Lord.
41 The two pillars and the two cords of the chapiters, upon the chapiters of the pillars: and the two networks, to cover the two cords, that were upon the top of the pillars. 42 And four hundred pomegranates for the two networks: two rows of pomegranates for each network, to cover the cords of the chapiters, which were upon the tops of the pillars. 43 And the ten bases, and the ten lavers on the bases. 44 And one sea, and twelve oxen under the sea. 45 And the caldrons, and the shovels, and the basins. All the vessels that Hiram made for king Solomon for the house of the Lord, were of fine brass.
:1 Kings 7:20 And again other chapiters in the top of the pillars above, according to the measure of the pillar over against the network: and of pomegranates there were two hundred in rows round about the other chapiter.
21 And he set up the two pillars in the porch of the temple: and when he had set up the pillar on the right hand, he called the name thereof Jachin: in like manner he set up the second pillar, and called the name thereof Booz. 22 And upon the tops of the pillars he made lily work: so the work of the pillars was finished. 23 He made also a molten sea of ten cubits from brim to brim, round all about; the height of it was five cubits, and a line of thirty cubits compassed it round about. 24 And a graven work under the brim of it compassed it, for ten cubits going about the sea: there were two rows cast of chamfered sculptures. 25 And it stood upon twelve oxen, of which three looked towards the north, and three towards the west, and three towards the south, and three towards the east, and the sea was above upon them, and their hinder parts were all hid within.
26 And the laver was a handbreadth thick: and the brim thereof was like the brim of a cup, or the leaf of a crisped lily: it contained two thousand bates. 27 And he made ten bases of brass, every base was four cubits in length, and four cubits in breadth, and three cubits high. 28 And the work itself of the bases, was intergraven: and there were gravings between the joinings. 29 And between the little crowns and the ledges were lions, and oxen, and cherubims: and in the joinings likewise above: and under the lions and oxen, as it were bands of brass hanging down. 30 And every base had four wheels, and axletrees of brass: and at the four sides were undersetters under the laver molten, looking one against another.
31 The mouth also of the laver within, was in the top of the chapiter: and that which appeared without, was of one cubit all round, and together it was one cubit and a half: and in the corners of the pillars were divers engravings: and the spaces between the pillars were square, not round. 32 And the four wheels, which were at the four corners of the base, were joined one to another under the base: the height of a wheel was a cubit and a half. 33 And they were such wheels as are used to be made in a chariot: and their axletrees, and spokes, and strakes, and naves, were all east.
34 And the four undersetters that were at every corner of each base, were of the base itself cast and joined together. 35 And in the top of the base there was a round compass of half a cubit, so wrought that the laver might be set thereon, having its gravings, and divers sculptures of itself.
36 He engraved also in those plates, which were of brass. and in the corners, cherubims, and lions, and palm trees, in likeness of a man standing, so that they seemed not to be engraven, but added round about. 37 After this manner he made ten bases, of one casting and measure, and the like graving. 38 He made also ten lavers of brass: one laver contained four bases, and was of four cubits: and upon every base, in all ten, he put as many lavers. 39 And he set the ten bases, five on the right side of the temple, and five on the left: and the sea he put on the right side of the temple over against the east southward. 40 And Hiram made caldrons, and shovels, and basins, and finished all the work of king Solomon in the temple of the Lord.
41 The two pillars and the two cords of the chapiters, upon the chapiters of the pillars: and the two networks, to cover the two cords, that were upon the top of the pillars. 42 And four hundred pomegranates for the two networks: two rows of pomegranates for each network, to cover the cords of the chapiters, which were upon the tops of the pillars. 43 And the ten bases, and the ten lavers on the bases. 44 And one sea, and twelve oxen under the sea. 45 And the caldrons, and the shovels, and the basins. All the vessels that Hiram made for king Solomon for the house of the Lord, were of fine brass.
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CaliforniaJosiah said:
Make no mistake, the idols in churches ar bad.
But you are now getting very close to the truth.
I said before, we do not have to have idols in church to worship idols.
One previous post hit the nail on the head when it was suggested that "car" and the "sports star" are the real idols that we face whether we are RC or Protestant.
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