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"Mohammed vs Jesus, the Christ" Comparison of Teachings of Mohammed With Teachings of Jesus From Messengers of Christ Ministries, Andrew Neckar Mohammed was the prophet of war; Christ is the Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6-7).


Mohammed's disciples killed for the faith; Christ's disciples were killed for their faith (Acts 12:2; 2 Timothy 4:7).

Mohammed promoted persecution against the "infidels"; Christ forgave and converted the chief persecutor (1 Timothy 1:13-15).

Mohammed was the taker of life; Christ was the giver of life (John 10:27-28).

Mohammed and his fellow warriors murdered thousands; Christ murdered none but saved many (compare John 12:48).

Mohammed's method was COMPULSION; Christ's aim was voluntary CONVERSION (Acts 3:19).

Mohammed practiced FORCE; Christ preached FAITH (John 6:29, 35).

Mohammed was a WARRIOR; Christ is a DELIVERER (Col. 1:13; 1 Thessalonians 1:10).

Mohammed conquered his enemies with the sword; Christ conquered his enemies with another kind of sword, the sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God (Hebrews 4:12; Acts 2:37).

Mohammed said to the masses, "Convert or die!"; Christ said, "Believe and live!" (John 6:47; 11:25-26).

Mohammed was swift to shed blood (Romans 3:15-17); Christ shed His own blood for the salvation of many (Ephesians 1:7).

Mohammed preached "Death to the infidels!"; Christ prayed "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do" (Luke 23:34).

Mohammed declared a holy war (Jihad) against infidels; Christ achieved a holy victory on Calvary's cross (Colossians 2:14-15) and His followers share in that victory (John 16:33).

Mohammed constrained people by conquest; Christ constrained people by love (2 Corinthians 5:14).

Modern terrorists derive their inspiration from Mohammed and carry out their despicable atrocities in the name of his god; Christians derive their inspiration from the One who said, "Blessed are the peacemakers" (Matthew 5:9).

Modern day disciples of Mohammed respond to the terrorist attacks by cheering in the streets; Modern day disciples of Christ are deeply grieved at past atrocities carried out by those who were "Christians" in name only (the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, etc.).

Many Muslims are peaceful and peace-loving because they do not strictly follow the teachings of their founder; Many Christians are peaceful and peace-loving because they do strictly follow the teachings of their Founder (Romans 12:17-21).

Mohammed said the Koran is authoritative only in Arabic, and only in his dialect; The Bible is authoritative in many languages around the world, for God knows all things and can inspire (and preserve) His Word in more than one language.


Mohammed allowed that a Mullah, Imam, or Mufti of Islam can be a terrorist and an amoral animal like Osama bin Laden; The Bible requires that a leader in the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ must be above reproach, and when this is not true, Christians demand such a fallen leader be removed from leadership. (1 Timothy 3:1-7, 5:19-20).

Islam calls on its followers to observe Five Pillars, while all other aspects of life can be vulgar and not affect the Muslim's prospects in Paradise. The Bible calls on the Christian to submit to the total change of his life by the Spirit of God -- NO area of life and thought is the choice of the follower. (Romans 12:1-2).

The Muslim looks forward to eternity in Paradise where there will be virgins who are used for eternal perpetual copulation.

The Bible believing Christian looks forward to being with Jesus Christ and is delighted with that. (2 Corinthians 5:8).

Mohammed said the witness of a woman was half the value of the witness of a man; and Muhammed said a woman goes to Paradise because she satisfies her husband sexually; The Bible teaches that a husband is to love his wife and be willing to die for her. (Ephesians 5:25).

Mohammed called upon his servants to fight; Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world; if My kingdom were of this world, then would My servants fight . . . but now is My kingdom not from hence" (John 18:36).

Mohammed ordered death to the Jews (see A. Guillaume, The Life of Muhammad, Oxford University Press [1975], p. 369); Christ ordered that the gospel be preached "to the Jew first" (Romans 1:16).

The Koran says, "Fight in the cause of Allah" (Qu'ran 2.244); The Bible says, "we wrestle not against flesh and blood" and "the weapons of our warfare are not carnal" (Ephesians 6:12; 2 Corinthians 10:4).

The Koran says, "Fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them" (Qu'ran 9.5); Christ said, "Preach the gospel to every creature" (Mark 16:15).

The Koran says, "I will inspire terror into the hearts of unbelievers" (Qu'ran 8.12); God inspires His terror into the hearts of believers (Isaiah 8:13).

The Koran (Qu'ran) is a terrorist manual which condones fighting, conflict, terror, slaughter, and genocide against those who do not accept Islam; The Bible is a missionary manual to spread the gospel of peace to all the world (Romans 10:15).

Mohammed's Mission was to conquer the world for Allah; Christ's mission was to conquer sin's penalty and power by substitutionary atonement (2 Corinthians 5:21; 1 Peter 3:18).

Mohammed considered Christ a good prophet; Christ pronounced (in His statement on many false prophets arising) Mohammed to be a false prophet (John 10:10; Matthew 24:11).

Mohammed claimed that there was but one God, Allah; Christ claimed that He was God (John 10:30-31; John 8:58-59; John 5:18; John 14:9).

Islam is geocentric, that is, the whole universe is centered on the Kaaba in the Grand Mosque in Mecca in Arabia, and all Muslims pray facing that direction; Jesus Christ is the center of all Christian worship and fellowship, for He is "in the midst" where his saints meet anywhere on earth. (Matthew 18:20, John 4:22-23).

Mohammed's Tomb: OCCUPIED! Christ's tomb: EMPTY!

Islam must be received, or you can be killed for rejecting it:

The Faith offered by Jesus Christ is for "whosoever will" to receive, and all men are permitted to reject it. (Revelation 22:17, John 3:16).

Those who leave Islam are killed in most Islamic nations; Those who leave the true Church of Jesus Christ are allowed to do so with no revenge.

Now, is a Muslim submitted to Allah and Islam because he loves Allah? NO!

He dare not leave Islam, and he is loyal purely out of fear.

The true Bible believer is loyal to Jesus Christ purely out of love. 1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. (John 4:19) We love him, because he first loved us.
 

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"Mohammed vs Jesus, the Christ" Comparison of Teachings of Mohammed With Teachings of Jesus From Messengers of Christ Ministries, Andrew Neckar Mohammed was the prophet of war; Christ is the Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6-7).


Mohammed's disciples killed for the faith; Christ's disciples were killed for their faith (Acts 12:2; 2 Timothy 4:7).

Mohammed promoted persecution against the "infidels"; Christ forgave and converted the chief persecutor (1 Timothy 1:13-15).

Mohammed was the taker of life; Christ was the giver of life (John 10:27-28).

Mohammed and his fellow warriors murdered thousands; Christ murdered none but saved many (compare John 12:48).

Mohammed's method was COMPULSION; Christ's aim was voluntary CONVERSION (Acts 3:19).

Mohammed practiced FORCE; Christ preached FAITH (John 6:29, 35).

Mohammed was a WARRIOR; Christ is a DELIVERER (Col. 1:13; 1 Thessalonians 1:10).

Mohammed conquered his enemies with the sword; Christ conquered his enemies with another kind of sword, the sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God (Hebrews 4:12; Acts 2:37).

Mohammed said to the masses, "Convert or die!"; Christ said, "Believe and live!" (John 6:47; 11:25-26).

Mohammed was swift to shed blood (Romans 3:15-17); Christ shed His own blood for the salvation of many (Ephesians 1:7).

Mohammed preached "Death to the infidels!"; Christ prayed "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do" (Luke 23:34).

Mohammed declared a holy war (Jihad) against infidels; Christ achieved a holy victory on Calvary's cross (Colossians 2:14-15) and His followers share in that victory (John 16:33).

seed757 said:
Wow dude. Your ignorance of Islam is staggering.:sigh:
Which Scriptures testify of the Christ and which scriptures testify of Islam? Did not muhammad think enough about Jesus to at least listen to Him a teeny weeny bit?

(NKJV) John 5:39 "You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.

And remember, you can't use the Bible to prove muhammad is the one prophecied to come. :thumbsup:

Acts 3:22 Moses, indeed, said--A prophet, unto you, shall the Lord God raise up among your brethren, like unto me: unto him, shall ye hearken respecting all things whatsoever he shall speak unto you.

(Young) Mark 9:7 And there came a cloud overshadowing them, and there came a Voice out of the cloud, saying, `This is My Son--the Beloved, hear ye him!!!!;'
 
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arunma said:
If the Quran doesn't preach all this, then perhaps the Muslims would be so kind as to refute it from their scriptures.
There're a bunch of website/books/etc that had refuted that:). I often heard Christians said, "don't teach us how to interpret our own Bible!". Do you think Muslims don't have the same right?:)

Just for a quick glance:
"Mohammed's disciples killed for the faith; Christ's disciples were killed for their faith (Acts 12:2; 2 Timothy 4:7). "

He just said Muslims killed, but did he said why Muslims go for war? And with this statement also, it implies that Christians can't go for war. Thus, what we have to call the Christians that go for war(a soldier perhaps)? A heretic?

"Mohammed's method was COMPULSION; Christ's aim was voluntary CONVERSION (Acts 3:19)."
Doh! Yes, I was forced to said Shahadah back in March. They will kill my family if I'm not converting to Islam and will rape my sisters. Oh! And the Islam came to South East Asian(where I lived now) and rape and plunder and torture until they converted to Islam. But the British came with peace and lived peacefully with the locals. Remember the "5 Gs" factor why the Western Imperialism? Guess he forgot the one of the 'G' is for Gospel.

I've to stop now. I never felt offended by any post on this forum since I became a Muslims. But I felt a slightly upset with this OP. Weird the author said something to Muhammad and Muslims but didn't want to explain why, how, what, when, duh!

And for goodness sake, PLEASE don't post cut 'n pastes from Islamic propaganda sites.
Isn't that is funny when Muslims can't copy 'n paste while this whole thing is actually a good copy 'n paste work?:p

Salaam:).
 
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-First off I have to say, muslims love and respect Jesus and it is in no way befitting for us to get into degrading him in any way.
-Second it is unfair to judge Muhammad and Jesus with the same criteria considering they lived in completely different situations. Its like comparing 2 brothers, one is on the battlefield fighting in a war and the other is at home. Of course if we were to compare these brothers one would look worse because of the situation he is in.

". . . Do not take life, which Allah has made sacred, except through justice and the law. He orders this so that you may acquire wisdom" (6:151)

"Do not take life, which Allah has made sacred, except for a just cause. If anyone is killed unjustly, We allow his heir (to seek justice) but do not allow him to exceed bounds when it comes to taking life, for he is helped (by the law)" (17:33).

[2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.

[4:75] Why should you not fight in the cause of GOD when weak men, women, and children are imploring: "Our Lord, deliver us from this community whose people are oppressive, and be You our Lord and Master."

[2:193] You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship GOD freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; aggression is permitted only against the aggressors.

[8:61] If they resort to peace, so shall you, and put your trust in GOD. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.

[4:90] ... if they leave you alone, refrain from fighting you, and offer you peace, then GOD gives you no excuse to fight them.

[4:94] O you who believe, if you strike in the cause of GOD, you shall be absolutely sure. Do not say to one who offers you peace, "You are not a believer," seeking the spoils of this world. For GOD possesses infinite spoils. Remember that you used to be like them, and GOD blessed you. Therefore, you shall be absolutely sure (before you strike). GOD is fully Cognizant of everything you do.

[25:68] They never implore beside GOD any other god, nor do they kill anyone - for GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. Nor do they commit adultery. Those who commit these offenses will have to pay.

"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects Taghut (evil) and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trust worthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. " (Qur'an 2:256)

16:125] You shall invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and kind enlightenment, and debate with them in the best possible manner. Your Lord knows best who has strayed from His path, and He knows best who are the guided ones.

“…if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole mankind and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole mankind." 5:32

"Do not let your hatred of a people incite you to aggression." 5:2

"And do not let ill-will towards any folk incite you so that you swerve from dealing justly. Be just; that is nearest to heedfulness" 5:8

God commands justice and doing good and giving to relatives. And He forbids indecency and doing wrong and tyranny. He warns you so that hopefully you will pay heed. 16:90



































































































































































































 
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warghaha said:
There're a bunch of website/books/etc that had refuted that:). I often heard Christians said, "don't teach us how to interpret our own Bible!". Do you think Muslims don't have the same right?:)

Just for a quick glance:
"Mohammed's disciples killed for the faith; Christ's disciples were killed for their faith (Acts 12:2; 2 Timothy 4:7). "

He just said Muslims killed, but did he said why Muslims go for war? And with this statement also, it implies that Christians can't go for war. Thus, what we have to call the Christians that go for war(a soldier perhaps)? A heretic?

"Mohammed's method was COMPULSION; Christ's aim was voluntary CONVERSION (Acts 3:19)."
Doh! Yes, I was forced to said Shahadah back in March. They will kill my family if I'm not converting to Islam and will rape my sisters. Oh! And the Islam came to South East Asian(where I lived now) and rape and plunder and torture until they converted to Islam. But the British came with peace and lived peacefully with the locals. Remember the "5 Gs" factor why the Western Imperialism? Guess he forgot the one of the 'G' is for Gospel.

I've to stop now. I never felt offended by any post on this forum since I became a Muslims. But I felt a slightly upset with this OP. Weird the author said something to Muhammad and Muslims but didn't want to explain why, how, what, when, duh!


Isn't that is funny when Muslims can't copy 'n paste while this whole thing is actually a good copy 'n paste work?:p

Salaam:).

I didn't even understand most of what you said, and I didn't know that you couldn't post links?
 
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Adeeb said:
-First off I have to say, muslims love and respect Jesus and it is in no way befitting for us to get into degrading him in any way.
-Second it is unfair to judge Muhammad and Jesus with the same criteria considering they lived in completely different situations. Its like comparing 2 brothers, one is on the battlefield fighting in a war and the other is at home. Of course if we were to compare these brothers one would look worse because of the situation he is in.

". . . Do not take life, which Allah has made sacred, except through justice and the law. He orders this so that you may acquire wisdom" (6:151)

"Do not take life, which Allah has made sacred, except for a just cause. If anyone is killed unjustly, We allow his heir (to seek justice) but do not allow him to exceed bounds when it comes to taking life, for he is helped (by the law)" (17:33).

[2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.

[4:75] Why should you not fight in the cause of GOD when weak men, women, and children are imploring: "Our Lord, deliver us from this community whose people are oppressive, and be You our Lord and Master."

[2:193] You may also fight them to eliminate oppression, and to worship GOD freely. If they refrain, you shall not aggress; aggression is permitted only against the aggressors.

[8:61] If they resort to peace, so shall you, and put your trust in GOD. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient.

[4:90] ... if they leave you alone, refrain from fighting you, and offer you peace, then GOD gives you no excuse to fight them.

[4:94] O you who believe, if you strike in the cause of GOD, you shall be absolutely sure. Do not say to one who offers you peace, "You are not a believer," seeking the spoils of this world. For GOD possesses infinite spoils. Remember that you used to be like them, and GOD blessed you. Therefore, you shall be absolutely sure (before you strike). GOD is fully Cognizant of everything you do.

[25:68] They never implore beside GOD any other god, nor do they kill anyone - for GOD has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. Nor do they commit adultery. Those who commit these offenses will have to pay.

"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects Taghut (evil) and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trust worthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. " (Qur'an 2:256)

16:125] You shall invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and kind enlightenment, and debate with them in the best possible manner. Your Lord knows best who has strayed from His path, and He knows best who are the guided ones.

“…if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole mankind and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole mankind." 5:32

"Do not let your hatred of a people incite you to aggression." 5:2

"And do not let ill-will towards any folk incite you so that you swerve from dealing justly. Be just; that is nearest to heedfulness" 5:8

God commands justice and doing good and giving to relatives. And He forbids indecency and doing wrong and tyranny. He warns you so that hopefully you will pay heed. 16:90
















































































































































































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Perhaps you fail to realise that Mohammed started the wars. Jesus could have started a war too, He had the divine power and who would have stopped him? He demonstrated what it is really like to be obedient to God. Mohammed on the other hand, showed us how to live like a darwinian creature - kill or be killed.
 
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PaladinValer said:
You insulted them first. While two wrongs don't make a right, they aren't wrong when they say your knowledge of their religion is incorrect.

I was wondering were you went to, I haven't heard you put me down in almost 2 days?
 
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BigChrisfilm said:
Jesus vs. Mohammad

This was quite comical, at least stick to the verse that actually refer to Jesus, unlike Isaiah 9 which has nothing to do with Jesus.
And by the way, is it fair to compare a human to a God (as Christianity claims Jesus was)?
 
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BigChrisfilm said:
I didn't even understand most of what you said, and I didn't know that you couldn't post links?
I can't understand either:D.

Seriosly, the author didn't have a ground to start his ranting.
Example: The author said: "Now, is a Muslim submitted to Allah and Islam because he loves Allah? NO!

He dare not leave Islam, and he is loyal purely out of fear. "


Now, if I said to you, "is a Christian is a true follower of Jesus and love him? NO! They cherished for his crixifiction!

They can't leave Christianity for they love free gift. They want something but want it with simple and easy way. They're too lazy even for their own salvation!"

So you'll surely say I'm an oxymoron who understand not your religion and try to judge your belief in Christianity.

That's how I see this OP.

Salaam:)
 
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From Muhammad:

"(God) has revealed to me that you should adopt humility so that no one oppresses another."

Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is oppressed." People asked, "…It is right to help him if he is oppressed, but how should we help him if he is an oppressor?" The Prophet said, "By preventing him from oppressing others."

"O My servants, I have forbidden oppression for Myself and have made it forbidden amongst you, so do not oppress one another."

"To administer justice between two people is charity."

"The just and fair will be seated on chairs of light before God. Such people are those who decide with justice and deal justly in matters relating to their families and other affairs entrusted to them."

"Verily, God will only show mercy to those of His servants who do good to others."

"Be kind, for whenever kindness becomes part of something, it beautifies it. Whenever it is taken from something, it leaves it tarnished." He also said: "Make things simple and do not complicate them. Calm people and do not drive them away."

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"God did not send me to be harsh, or cause harm, but He sent me to teach and make things easy."

"Religion is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded; and gain strength by worshipping in the mornings, the nights."

"A time will come when the murderer will not know why he has committed the murder, and the victim will not know why he has been killed."

The ink of the scholar is more holy than the blood of the martyr.

The most vicious among all men is he who is respected out of fear.

Deal gently with a people, and be not harsh; cheer them and condemn not
 
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PaladinValer said:
Critiques aren't putdowns.

What you are doing to the Muslims here is a putdown.

I am not putting anyone down, I am showing them they have a false religion, and at some points I can become very frustrated, if you would be so kind as to post a couple examples of me being disrespectfull, I will kindly and an agology to the post. Otherwise, please stop following me around, thank you.:thumbsup:
 
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BigChrisfilm said:
I am showing them they have a false religion
Do you find it fair to compare a God and a human? Would you compare Moses and God? Would you compare King David and God? Would you compare Paul and God?

This thread seems dishonest.
 
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BigChrisfilm said:
I am not putting anyone down, I am showing them they have a false religion, and at some points I can become very frustrated, if you would be so kind as to post a couple examples of me being disrespectfull, I will kindly and an agology to the post. Otherwise, please stop following me around, thank you.:thumbsup:
I thought the OP is a copy 'n paste work.:eek: So it's you who wrote the OP?:eek:

Well, if it's you who wrote the OP, then I'm glad I'm talking to the one who wrote that down. Ok, it's not your intention to putting anyone down. But I'm still confuse with this line: "Now, is a Muslim submitted to Allah and Islam because he loves Allah? NO!

He dare not leave Islam, and he is loyal purely out of fear. "


Can I know your honest explanation for that line? Are you saying you know that I'm not leaving Islam because of the scare tactics taught by Islam? It's funny thing I must say. Only God knows what's in our heart. I don't know if Christianity teach you can know what's in someone heart(if so, this is a new thing in Christianity I must say because for all my life, I never heard Jesus said Christians can know what's in one heart).

Salaam.
 
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