The God of Israel Has A Name

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Yes it appears he is a sacred namer, they are a strange sect indeed. Even the casual usage of G-ds name is disrespectfull and forbidden by Halacha.

Didaskalos - you are saying that it is Jesus name which you are to use, but Jesus was not his name, it was Yeshua, or Yehoshua. So saying the L-rds name is Jesus is incorrect. Its strange all the stuff said about how great the name Jesus was and it wasnt his name at all. I think it would also be disrespectfull to him to call him by a different name from that he was, or even a translated name.
 
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How can the Son of God's name be Jesus (pronounced Gee-zus) when there is no letter "J" in either Greek or Hebrew? The letter "J" is simply a fancy way of writing the letter I developed in the middle ages and was pronounced like a "Y" until around 500 years ago, if not later. The "J" only developed its distinctive sound in English through French influence. Germans still pronounce the "J" like a "Y". The original King James version of 1611 spelled Jesus, Iesus. Anyway, Yahshua is the name that HaMahiach, the Son of Yahweh was called during his time on earth, and it is the name he is still known by today as he sits at the right hand of the Father.

Here are the links to a couple of interesting and informative websites which I recommend you investigate:

http://www.remnantfire.com/doctrine.htm
http://yaim.org/Pages/missingJ.htm
 
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I can't believe how anal some people are over a name. I understand and agree that we should not be afraid to use the name of God, but to argue that it matters how you say the name of Yeshua, or Jesus, or whatever, is stupid. When an American Christian says Jesus and a Jewish Christian says Yeshua they are talking about the same person, the Savior.

The translators chose to use the name Iesus for a reason. The people they were writing for did not speak Hebrew, they spoke Greek and if you will remember the lesson of Paul then you should not have any problem with the practice of calling Yeshua Jesus. For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a slave to all, so that I may win more. To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law, so that I might win those who are under the Law; to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, so that I might win those who are without law. To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak; I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means save some.(1Cor. 9:19-22). Now, answer me honestly, do you think Paul spoke Hebrew when he spoke to the Gentiles? No, he became all things to all men, he adapted to the culture and the individual. He went so far as the use a different name around Gentiles to make them feel more comfortable. Do you honestly believe that using Yeshua Messiah is better than Jesus Christ? Does the God we worship not understand English, Latin, Greek, or any other language besides the one spoken by Jews? Our God is beyond that, and I believe that as long as we are talking about the same God and the translation means the same thing, than it does not matter whether I use Jesus or Yeshua.

If you want to get technical than the Name of God that we should be using is Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh, or just plain Ehyeh (or I AM, or I AM THAT I AM) because this is the name that Jesus claims for Himself many times in the Gospels.

1- I am the bread of life (Jn.6:35)
2- I am the light of the world (Jn.8:12)
3- I am the gate (Jn.10:9)
4- I am the good shepherd (Jn.10:11.
5- I am the resurrection (Jn.11:25)
6- I am the way and the truth and the life (Jn.14:6)
7- I am the true vine (Jn.15:1)
8- So Jesus, knowing all the things that were coming upon Him, went forth and said to them, " Whom do you seek?" They answered Him, "Jesus the Nazarene." He said to them, "I am He." And Judas also, who was betraying Him, was standing with them. So when He said to them, "I am He," they drew back and fell to the ground. Therefore He again asked them, " Whom do you seek?" And they said, "Jesus the Nazarene." Jesus answered, "I told you that I am He (John 18:4-8)

Once again, I agree that we should not feel afraid to use the name of God, but I do not agree that somehow using a name that is translated from Hebrew is a bad thing.
 
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Yahweh - I Am Who I Am

The name of Jesus holds so much power - why is it when people curse they say "Oh for CHRISTS sake" or "Jesus Christ" or "Jesus!" (God, you know my heart on that one, it certainly wasnt blasphemy!)

Why?

Because the name carries power! The new testament wasnt written for a new testament, if you look into the history - but why does scripture have power to heal, to cast out demons, to minister to people, to convict people? Because they are the words of GOD! When people curse they dont say "Oh Buddha... Oh Krishna." Do they? No! Because there is NO power or AUTHORITY!

When we say Jehovah it is a translation of Yahweh - I do agree, I think we SHOULD use Yahweh rather than Jehovah, because as far as I understand it is not a very accurate translation.

As for using Yeshua rather than Jesus... I think the name of Jesus is fine. Jesus is alive today, and he knows his English better than me! And he speaks to my heart in English, not in aramaic.

Thats my view... God Bless, metal.
 
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To any who still believe that using the name of Yahweh is somehow sacrilegious, know this: the refusal or inability to use Yahweh's name is not the sign of a blessing and special covenant relationship. It is just the opposite rather. A person's refusal to use Yahweh's name is a sign that they are cursed and remain outside the covenant. The following are verses which serve to illustrate this point:

KJV Jeremiah 44:24-30
24 Moreover Jeremiah said unto all the people, and to all the women, Hear the word of the LORD (Yahweh), all Judah that are in the land of Egypt:
25 Thus saith the LORD (Yahweh) of hosts, the God of Israel, saying; Ye and your wives have both spoken with your mouths, and fulfilled with your hand, saying, We will surely perform our vows that we have vowed, to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her: ye will surely accomplish your vows, and surely perform your vows.
26 Therefore hear ye the word of the LORD (Yahweh), all Judah that dwell in the land of Egypt; Behold, I have sworn by my great name, saith the LORD (Yahweh), that my name shall no more be named in the mouth of any man of Judah in all the land of Egypt, saying, The Lord GOD (Yahweh) liveth.
27 Behold, I will watch over them for evil, and not for good: and all the men of Judah that are in the land of Egypt shall be consumed by the sword and by the famine, until there be an end of them.

KJV Amos 6:8-11
8 The Lord GOD (Yahweh) hath sworn by himself, saith the LORD (Yahweh) the God of hosts, I abhor the excellency of Jacob, and hate his palaces: therefore will I deliver up the city with all that is therein.
9 And it shall come to pass, if there remain ten men in one house, that they shall die.
10 And a man's uncle shall take him up, and he that burneth him, to bring out the bones out of the house, and shall say unto him that is by the sides of the house, Is there yet any with thee? and he shall say, No. Then shall he say, Hold thy tongue: for we may not make mention of the name of the LORD (Yahweh).
11 For, behold, the LORD (Yahweh) commandeth, and he will smite the great house with breaches, and the little house with clefts.
 
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KJV Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

KJV Isaiah 52:5-6
5 Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD (Yahweh), that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD (Yahweh); and my name continually every day is blasphemed.
6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.

Jesus is not a translation. Jesus (pronounced Gee-zus) is not an English word, does not mean anything in English, and therefore cannot be an English translation of anything. The name Jesus is a corrupted transliteration of a corrupted Greek transliteration (Iesous, pronounced Yey-suse) of the original Hebrew name of the Son of God which is Yahshua. Yahshua means, "salvation of Yah" or "salvation of Yahweh" (Yah is a shortened form of Yahweh). Yeshua cannot be his Hebrew name because that would translate to "salvation of Yeh", and Yeh is definitely not God's name, nor is it a form of it.

So, then by continuing to use the name of Jesus for the Son of God, which no one ever called him until about five hundred years ago or so, you are making a decision to use a twice-corrupted Anglicized form of the Son of Yahweh's true Hebrew name.

If you have any lingering doubts about whether Yahshua is the Son of Yahweh's authentic Hebrew name, please consult the websites which I linked to previously. Two verses you can check easily for yourself are Acts 7:54 and Hebrews 4:8 in the King James Version. There you will find that the name Jesus is used for Joshua, the son of Nun, who led the Israelites in to the Promised Land after the death of Moses. Since we know that the "J" in his name is pronounced "Y" in Hebrew, it is apparent that his name is properly pronounced Yahshua. Therefore it is logical and correct to assume that everytime the name of Jesus occurs in the King James Version, it is being substituted for the Hebrew name Joshua or, more properly, Yahshua.

The following verse has already been mentioned in this thread and I hope we all know it:

KJV Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Now then, which of us is taking this verse less seriously. Many of you seem to think that this verse doesn't matter, or that it doensn't really mean what it says it does, and we're free to call the Son of God anything we want, just so long as it's the accepted usage of whatever nation or culture we happen to be living in. But I don't think that's true at all. I believe and am convinced that the Son of Yahweh has only one name, and that his name is Yahshua.
 
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KJV Matthew 6:7
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.


"...Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name..."

The following is a list of websites which provide on information on the Name of God (Yahweh) and His Son, Yahshua.

Supporting Your Doctrine - Whatever It Is.
http://www.remnantfire.com/doctrine.htm

How Did the Name of Jesus Originate?
http://www.plim.org/JesusOrigin.htm

How the Savior's Name Was Changed
http://www.ynca.com/Mini Studies/howthesa.htm

A Detailed History of the Name Jehovah
http://www.yhwh.com/jehovah.htm

Why Do We Say Yahshua and Yahweh?
http://hebrewmessianic.org/yhwh_yahshua.htm

The Missing J
http://yaim.org/Pages/missingJ.htm

I hope you find these articles as interesting and informative as I did. May the Holy Spirit of Yahweh guide you into all truth.
 
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Ebed-Yahweh said:
To any who still believe that using the name of Yahweh is somehow sacrilegious, know this: the refusal or inability to use Yahweh's name is not the sign of a blessing and special covenant relationship. It is just the opposite rather. A person's refusal to use Yahweh's name is a sign that they are cursed and remain outside the covenant. The following are verses which serve to illustrate this point:
Please come down off your throne Ebed-Yahweh! No one here has tried to make the case that useing the name of Yahweh is sacrilegious nor have I seen anyone here say that they will refuse to use the name Yahweh.

Now you may post all the passages in the Bible for all I care but everything you have posted so far shows me that you are spiritually discerned in this matter. Your thoughts on this show that you think like a natural man and the natural man does not recieve things from the Holy Spirit.
1 Cor. 2:13-14, Which things also we speak not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 
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Some people did claim that not using the name was a sign of reverence for it. Perhaps sacrilegious was too strong a word. Regardless, I'm just obeying the command of my Heavenly Father Yahweh to use His name and teach others to do the same.

KJV Psalms 22:22 I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.

KJV Psalms 29:2 Give unto the LORD (Yahweh) the glory due unto his name; worship the LORD (Yahweh) in the beauty of holiness.

KJV Psalms 33:21 For our heart shall rejoice in him, because we have trusted in his holy name.

KJV Psalms 34:3 O magnify the LORD (Yahweh) with me, and let us exalt his name together.

KJV Psalms 44:5 Through thee will we push down our enemies: through thy name will we tread them under that rise up against us.

KJV Psalms 44:8 In God we boast all the day long, and praise thy name for ever. Selah.

KJV Psalms 44:20-21
20 If we have forgotten the name of our God, or stretched out our hands to a strange God;
21 Shall not God search this out? for he knoweth the secrets of the heart.

KJV Psalms 45:17 I will make thy name to be remembered in all generations: therefore shall the people praise thee for ever and ever.

KJV Psalms 48:10 According to thy name, O God, so is thy praise unto the ends of the earth: thy right hand is full of righteousness.

KJV Psalms 52:9 I will praise thee for ever, because thou hast done it: and I will wait on thy name; for it is good before thy saints.

KJV Psalms 74:18 Remember this, that the enemy hath reproached, O LORD (Yahweh), and that the foolish people have blasphemed thy name.

KJV Psalms 91:14-16
14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation (Yahshua - the true Hebrew name of the Son and human incarnation of Yahweh Elohim).
 
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