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Ishmael Borg said:
Is the Bible reliable as a book of science?
Good God no. Only children and the ill educated use it in a scientific manner. I would laugh out loud at the question but I know some people on this forum are still in the Dark Ages and actually think it has a scientific purpose.
 
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It actually does contain some remarkable science. For example:

When we see groups of stars we call constellations, in most cases the stars are not very close together. Some are relatively close, some are VERY distant. They appear in the same area of the sky to our naked eyes just because we don't have much depth perception of things that are SO far away. There are a couple of exceptions. We now know of two constellations composed of stars that are gravitationally bound to each other.

How could the author of the book of Job, possibly the oldest book in the Bible, know what these two constellations are bound together? Yet there they are, singled out in Job 38:31.
 
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ugabaru said:
It actually does contain some remarkable science. For example:

When we see groups of stars we call constellations, in most cases the stars are not very close together. Some are relatively close, some are VERY distant. They appear in the same area of the sky to our naked eyes just because we don't have much depth perception of things that are SO far away. There are a couple of exceptions. We now know of two constellations composed of stars that are gravitationally bound to each other.

How could the author of the book of Job, possibly the oldest book in the Bible, know what these two constellations are bound together? Yet there they are, singled out in Job 38:31.
Garbage!
 
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ugabaru said:
It actually does contain some remarkable science. For example:

When we see groups of stars we call constellations, in most cases the stars are not very close together. Some are relatively close, some are VERY distant. They appear in the same area of the sky to our naked eyes just because we don't have much depth perception of things that are SO far away. There are a couple of exceptions. We now know of two constellations composed of stars that are gravitationally bound to each other.

How could the author of the book of Job, possibly the oldest book in the Bible, know what these two constellations are bound together? Yet there they are, singled out in Job 38:31.
He didn't.

That was easy.
 
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Ishmael Borg said:
Is the Bible reliable as a book of science?
Yes, it is as reliable as a yard stick. We can take all we find to the Bible to check it out and see if it is true or not. Anything that does not line up with the word of God will be proven wrong sooner or later. It is only a question of when.
 
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Chi_Cygni said:
Anything that does not line up with the word of God will end up in the garbage, or more accurate, the lake of fire. Anything that is not of God, will be destroyed. But what God is a part of will go on forever.

When His love abides in us, then we know we have eternal life.
 
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Don't mess with JohnR7. He's got a "mountain of evidence". He won't show a bit of it to you, you can wait a thousand posts (see his Adam and Eve thread), but you can take him at his word: it's there. Too bad I've got to get to bed. Maybe it's for the best, though. I can't bear the weight of John's crushing arguments, each backed by "the mountain".
 
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JohnR7 said:
Yes, it is as reliable as a yard stick. We can take all we find to the Bible to check it out and see if it is true or not. Anything that does not line up with the word of God will be proven wrong sooner or later. It is only a question of when.
Just like the flat earth.

No no, don't try, I realise you'll attept to rationalise it away. It just happens that the bible conveniently changes meaning to whatever you may want.
 
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I'm getting error messages about not being able to post URL's in my messages, so replace "dot" with "." in the referenced sites.

While there are a couple of Christian influenced sites that refer to this, here are references from other sites that don't have any kind of religious agenda:

From
wwwdotspacenowdotorgdotuk/index.cfm?code=expluni&subcode=info&recID=57

In 1769 the French astronomer Charles Messier included the Pleiades in his catalogue of nebulae and star clusters, The Pleiades was object number 45. Over the next 70 years the true nature of star clusters was observed in greater detail. It was observed that such groups had no measurable proper motion relative to each other and held together by gravity as they move through space. Much of the understanding of star clusters came from observations of the Pleiades.
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The age of the Pleiades star cluster is estimated at around 100 million years. The cluster is only expected to be around for another 250 million years. After that the stars will become individual stars along their orbital path.

For Orion, you will need this bit of information from
wwwdotcosmicastronomydotcom/orion-2.htm
Orion is a zodian area in the night sky called Orion, within which are found the intensly bright stars forming Orion's belt, the so-called 'trapezium', and the horsehead nebula.

... The Trapezium is most commonly catalogued as M42.

How could the author of the book of Job, possibly the oldest book in the Bible, know what these two constellations are bound together? Yet there they are, singled out in Job 38:31.
 
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JohnR7 said:
Yes, it is as reliable as a yard stick. We can take all we find to the Bible to check it out and see if it is true or not. Anything that does not line up with the word of God will be proven wrong sooner or later. It is only a question of when.

Uhhhh... you're kidding right? So since the bible doesn't mention computers or cars, will they be proven wrong soon?
 
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Dracon427 said:
Uhhhh... you're kidding right? So since the bible doesn't mention computers or cars, will they be proven wrong soon?
If your not going to take the time and the trouble to figure out what I am saying, then I will do the same. I am not going to take the time and the trouble to try and figure out what you are trying to say here.
 
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