Are we servants or sons of God?

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One question that has been puzzling me is the status of Christians to God. Are we servants or sons of God? It seems that God can't make up His mind.

The New Testament text goes into great lengths on our status as sons of God. From Jesus's "Abba, Father" to Paul's lyrical statements of our sonship.

But there are other seemingly contradictory statements that refer to good Christians as "servants". The one that gets me is John saying that God will welcome good Christians into Heaven as "my good and faithful servant" etc... in Revelation.

But a good servant is someone who works well for his wage, as Paul says, a good son does not work but does his duty - well. Why is there this confusion in the bible?

Frankly, when I go to Heaven all I want to excitedly say is "(Abba) Daddy!!!!" and all I want to hear is "Welcome home, son! Welcome home."
 

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I say that we are sons but as sons we do many things and one of those things is to be a servant.

I am a son but I serve. What is the definition of a servant except "one who serves." So I guess I think that we are not JUST servants but we are also sons. But we are still servants.

Just like my wife and I. I am my wife's husband but also her servant. I am not just her servant but one of the main ways I show her love is by serving her needs. I look after here needs before my own. Her life is more important to me than mine.

I hope that helps.

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We are children of God through adoption...but Jesus (God's only begotten Son), Himself came to serve.

Lu:22:27: For whether is greater, he that sitteth at meat, or he that serveth? is not he that sitteth at meat? but I am among you as he that serveth.

Now we know that Jesus is greater than any of us, so of course we must try and serve.

Now a difference is how do we serve? With a heart of love or one burdened like Martha?

Lu:10:40: But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.
Lu:10:41: And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:
Lu:10:42: But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

I believe if we feel burdened in our serving it is better not to do it. The heart behind the serving is what is important. We certainly don't want to end up like the evil servants.

M't:18:28: But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.
M't:18:31: So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.

When we try and force ourselves to serve this is the way things will often turn out. We need to repent from dead works, as that is what it is all about.
 
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" believe if we feel burdened in our serving it is better not to do it"

"When we try and force ourselves to serve this is the way things will often turn out. We need to repent from dead works, as that is what it is all about."

I agree and disagree. Sometimes I have to force myself to worship God. I usually say a prayer to God something liek this: "God I do not want to worship you but I will because you deserve it. Please change my emotions so that I will want to serve you."

But I agree that if I just complain abotu serving then I should not do it. If I am not humble like above, which happens too often than I like, then I should stop it and do something else.

But our service is not what Christianity is really about. it is not about what we do at all. Whether we are under the power of God or not. The real thing that Christianity is all about is God.

Our service and obedience is our reasonable sacrifice. (Romans 12:1-2)
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Yes Blackhawk I see what you are saying and I like your comparison with your marriage...

Thinking on my marriage though...if my husband does something for me because he feels forced to do it. rather than out of a heart of love...I don't want it.

I feel like God feels this way also.

Just my thoughts here though.
 
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I understand what you re saying also. i do not want my wife to feel that she is being forced to do something. But I think that if she felt that she would like to feel that she wanted to do it but her emotions were not there then in theory I would want her to do it. Because she wants to want to do it but just can't get herself to want to. This is because I know she loves me and she is doing it out of love but she just does not FEEL like it. But love is not just a feeling.

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edit: It would not be the best but it would be love. But the best love would be that she would love me with her will and emotions fully and not just partly.
 
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I am commenting on this one even though it seems to be retired. As our God has many roles and titles in the Bible so do His children. We are referred to as many things...Children (Romans 8:16), Friends (John 15:15), sons (John 12:36), FELLOW workers (1 Corinthians 3:9), etc. There are more names for us, and just as God has many roles so does man.

Anyway, I thought this was an interesting post and wanted to bring it back to hear some mroe comments on it! :)

God Bless!

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