Science does not 'use science" to disprove god or creation. This is a lie. Science says absolutely nothing about god or any creation he may have done.ikester7579 said:
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Gould spoke like that saying science & creation are opposites & never the 2 will meet. what nonsense; psycohbabble fraud
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ikester7579 said:
Not true. He could be the perfect sacrifice because he was a perfect human. In his Incarnation, he was, as Paul says, the new Adam, human as God first intended human to be. He did not rely on his divinity to be a perfect human, as that would have nullified the purpose of the Incarnation.
If he was anything other than human, he could not be the needed sacrifice, nor our model of humanity. In his Incarnation, Jesus showed us what we could be and do as humans. He did not depend in any way on his divinity because that would have meant he was using privileges which are not accessible to people like you and me.
In his perfect humanity, Jesus also modeled for us the unspoiled image of God. His life and works and teachings show us what God is like. As he says to Philip "Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father." It is for this reason Jesus is called Son of God as well as Son of Man. But even as Son of God, Jesus had to be fully human.
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ikester7579 said:
Right. Note that "dome", "vault", "arch" and "thin sheets" all imply a solid edifice. "expanse" implies something spread out or stretched out. The bible sometimes speaks of the heavens/skies (same word in Hebrew) as a tent spread out overhead.
The important thing to note in all of these is that heaven (the sky and the place of God's court and habitation) is depicted as a solid material structure over-arching a flat disk-shaped earth (the "circle of the earth") consisting of dry land surrounded by ocean. Other biblical passages tell us the firmament is supported by pillars and the earth by foundations.
This is the biblical cosmology and is found throughout the old and new testaments. If you truly read the bible literally, this ought to be your scientific understanding of the structure of the cosmos. If you do not agree that this is the structure of the cosmos, you are not reading the bible literally and should not jump on other people who also choose not to read the bible literally.
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ikester7579 said:
NO!
Some things are factual - they are not subject to be called opinion.
When you say the Sun is shrinking 200 miles per year (please cite a source for this) this is an erroneous piece of information.
It's not your opinion versus mine - it is a LIE of yours versus a bona fide fact of mine.
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I have inspired many to do do various things....not just at this forum, but... you're welcome.ikester said:
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2) Why do I put lies on it? I don't, but then again, it's a matter of what you think is truth. I choose the truth of God and not man. For man did not climb up on that cross to die for my sins. The Son of God did. And niether did science.
Very true God sent his son.
Why is that so hard for most people?
Some believe God sent his son and became the son.
senseless to me.
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2) Why do I put lies on it? I don't, but then again, it's a matter of what you think is truth. I choose the truth of God and not man. For man did not climb up on that cross to die for my sins. The Son of God did. And niether did science.
Very true God sent his son.
Why is that so hard for most people?
Some believe God sent his son and became the son.
senseless to me.
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As usual, dodge the question you wish not answer.Arikay said:
O it's not in there to answer yours.
But neither is billions of years or evolution is it?
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Christ and the truth that he brought with him was in a minority too. But the majority still was not right.Data said:You know, I don't think you are as alone as you think. You'll find that most christians in the world beleive in what you beleive, young earth creationists are in the minority really.
I doubt any atheists on this board will have a problem with your beleif in theistic evolution anywaySome of the best guys here are christian, after all.
So if you only go with the flow, then it will always be against God. And it was the majority of what the people thought that killed Christ. And it was the majority that let a murderer go free in His place so they could have an innocent man killed.
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All yec's are liars to those who choose not to believe in 6 day creation as said in the word of God. I'm Glad and proud to be a literal believer in God's word, and YEC (6 day creation) just happens to be part of it. I would not want to be standing before the judgement throne of God explaining why I did not take His word literally. And to deny His power to create by doing so.Dark_Lite said:
Not to believe this way is your choice and I accept that. But why cannot you accept my choice? Or would you rather have it taken away from me so your choice can be forced?
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Yeah, if you can't find anything constructive, always get a little personal and find fault and make fun of. It's the norm, but it does get old.Peiper said:
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ikester,
how do you like the Solar radius thread that directly debunks your web site stuff? It seems a pretty good slaying of your material.
how do you like the Solar radius thread that directly debunks your web site stuff? It seems a pretty good slaying of your material.
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