Messianics: Do you all go to a Messianic Congregation?...

We have no Messianic congregation here, so we keep the Sabbath at home and listen to an online teacher on Friday evenings. We attended a Christian church for Years, but about 2 years ago the L-rd called us out.

I am a member of the Church of God and I used to attend all services - couldn't get enough. Now I also attend a tiny Shabbat service on Saturdays in a home. It is so powerful that I manage to get to church on Sunday but not Sunday evening or Wednesday evening. I may take a group on Prayer this winter - not sure.

The Shabbat I have been going to is informal, but passionate. Small - 10 at the largest. There is a Messianic congregation about 30 min away but I never got there - they have a service on Friday also, so I may try it.

I don't worry about my church friends because the best friends are also going on Saturday! And the church has a huge heart for Israel. The pastor is retiring in a couple of years and should the L-rd tarry, he and his wife want to live there for a few years! Me, too!

My family and I attend a Non-Denominational, bible believing church. There is a messianic congregation also about 35-40 minutes away, however we do not attend.

The congregation once lauded me as a "completed Jew," however they just "have to" love me now. I conduct the Passover Seder in our church, and Pastor minds his "P's and Q's" when he preaches from the Old Testment.

We've taught a Jewish Roots small group a few times and after a few people left to go to messianic congregations, we've politely declined teaching further formal groups.

I work for changes within the church, and have been somewhat successful. I seldom get told "we're not under The Law" anymore, and that I'm being "legalistic" any more -- at least within earshot -- and certainly not by the pastor!

There is a genuine fondness pastor and I have for each other and nearly always speak after service about the parallels, types, and shadows carry forth from the Old to the New Testaments.

Shalom,

CovenantRay

We attend a small messianic fellowship. When we have lived where there wasn't a messianic fellowship available we have attend Seventh-Day Adventist services. Neither dh nor I have ever attended sunday church and just can't imagine doing so.

At least with the SDA church meetings were on Shabbat and the pot lucks were kosher (usually lacto-ovo vegetarian) so we were able to fellowship over meals. While attending SDA churches we quietly worked to bring more attention to Torah and the feasts with varying amounts of success. At least one pastor we worked with continued to bring a hebraic mindset to his teachings and we just heard he was promoted to a postion of regional leadership, so maybe the seed we planted will continue to spread.

You can search for a messianic congregation near you here: http://www.yashanet.com/messcon1.htm since Messianic Judaism is a congregational movement, there are a variety of congregational structures from some that look very much like a church and some that look very jewish.

Victrixa said:

Hi dear brothers and sisters in Messiah,

Well.... do you all go to a Messianic Congregation (is there one available near your home) or do you go to a Protestant (or other) church and/or Jewish synagogue and live the Messianic lifestyle? (I know Messianism is first and foremost a lifestyle) I'm curious and would like to know what those of you who don't have a Messianic Congregation in your area do (if you attend some church or not)?

Thanx in advance!

Inquirer in Messianism ,

Caroline

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I spend a fair amount of time exchanging information with a close friend of mine, who is a Messianic Jewish teacher, who at one time was an educator for a large MJ organization. There is a small group of us who meet in person when it is convenient, and online when we are all busy. I also will, if invited, study with some Christians if they have a good foundation in Scripture. I am not into all of the "feelings", or the latest greatest wind of doctrine that people are being blown about by. For the most part, the "Messianic" movement looks nothing like MJ. It is an imposter movement run mostly by non-Jews.

newlamb said:

I am a member of the Church of God and I used to attend all services - couldn't get enough. Now I also attend a tiny Shabbat service on Saturdays in a home. It is so powerful that I manage to get to church on Sunday but not Sunday evening or Wednesday evening. I may take a group on Prayer this winter - not sure.

The Shabbat I have been going to is informal, but passionate. Small - 10 at the largest. There is a Messianic congregation about 30 min away but I never got there - they have a service on Friday also, so I may try it.

I don't worry about my church friends because the best friends are also going on Saturday! And the church has a huge heart for Israel. The pastor is retiring in a couple of years and should the L-rd tarry, he and his wife want to live there for a few years! Me, too!

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I have a hunger to move to Israel to live..to work with a Pastor that lives there who is Messianic Jew..He works with teens and young people under the age of 30...I truly love my Jews brothers and sisters and love to worship with those that have accepted Jesus and are keeping the Traditions...

We do not attend a Messianic congregation because we don't know of one in this country.

The area where I live is 90% Catholic, and the rest of the churches are mainly quite traditional Protestant churches.

However, we are friends with another couple who are Messianic so we meet up with them on Shabbat about once a month. We have also just made contact with other believers who have a love for Israel and I *think* are Messianic and we are trying to set up a monthly meeting with them.

Apart from that we listen to online messages and do our own study, and also attend the nearest Baptist church once or twice a month, mainly to keep in contact with Christians in the area so that we are not completely cut off from everyone...though I must say we're finding it harder and harder to attend this church...maybe G-d is calling us out of this church???

When we were in England my husband and I attended a church which had a love for Israel and studied the scriptures from a Jewish perspective though I wouldn't say they were Messianic in terms of following Torah...they were more like an evangelical church with a heart for Israel...

Victrixa~

Can I have the link?

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Sure~ http://www.bnaishalom.info/ There are lots of teachers online on Friday evening or Saturday morning but since we have friends who attend this congregation we listen/watch (on RealPlayer) this one.

Did the people at your previous church know that you are Messianic? If yes, how did they react? Did some of them become Messianics also, following your example?

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The people at our previous church always thought we were a little odd... (we've kept the Sabbath and celebrated the Feasts for over 14 yrs now, not to mention we have a large family~ 8 kids). The people that even had an opinion thought it was "cool" that we celebrated the Feasts.... but "strange" to "legalistic" that we kept the Sabbath. If someone asked me, I'd try to explain, but within moments the eyes would glaze over and they'd just say "oh, that's interesting" and walk away.

I (and most of my kids) actually quit going to that church nearly a year before my husband and oldest son (who was on the worship team~ drums. He's now 21) stopped going and Officially left the church with an email to the pastor explaining why. He never responded. There were other problems in that church anyway, so I wasn't surprised that the pastor was relieved that a "problem" family was leaving.

I've run across One family that went to that church who is interested in all things Messianic... but I didn't know until 3 weeks ago when I ran into the wife at WalMart, of all places, and we stood there and talked for nearly 40 minutes. I emailed her a lot of links, places to buy things, how to get started info with Sabbath, etc. She (and apparently the whole family) is Thrilled, and I'm hoping to invite them for Sabbath dinner at our house soon.

Interestingly enough northstar, I've always wondered if there was a Messianic community in the motherland (that be Ireland). My family is from counties Tipperary and Kilkenny, I really would like to go to Ireland sometime. Ireland and Israel are my two passions

jgonz said:

Victrixa~

Sure~ http://www.bnaishalom.info/ There are lots of teachers online on Friday evening or Saturday morning but since we have friends who attend this congregation we listen/watch (on RealPlayer) this one.

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That organization is tied to Monte Judah, who promotes two house, and believes that the book of Hebrews is not correct, and therefore not really scripture.

People on the net have been commenting about it:

http://www.therefinersfire.org/book_of_hebrews.htm

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This is not an endorsement of the website linked above.

HaNotsri said:

Interestingly enough northstar, I've always wondered if there was a Messianic community in the motherland (that be Ireland). My family is from counties Tipperary and Kilkenny, I really would like to go to Ireland sometime. Ireland and Israel are my two passions

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Well if you ever hear of any please let me know! We'd love to find a Messianic community here.

That organization is tied to Monte Judah, who promotes two house, and believes that the book of Hebrews is not correct, and therefore not really scripture.

People on the net have been commenting about it:

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Yes, we listen to Monte Judah on most Friday evenings, and yes, I know they're 2 House. He is a teaching elder at B'nai Shalom congregation, which is the link I posted. I personally believe that the basic 2 House teaching is correct. There are a Lot of misconceptions floating around out there about what 2 House Is though. I'll post links to some good articles if you'd like. I have some very dear friends who attend that congregation so we listen in.

As far as the book of Hebrews goes, there ARE and Always Have been questions about the book, it's origins, it's authorship, and whether or not it belongs in the Canon of the Bible. CENTURIES of arguing. This is not a new discussion. I see no problem with Monte Judah (or anyone else) bringing out these points. We had a really really really long thread about it here on MJF a few months ago, and the scholars in the bunch all brought out very good points on the history of this argument. Besides the fact that Monte Judah never said he thought we should throw out the book of Hebrews.

And, once again, for the record, I don't agree with All of what ANYone teaches.

I attend Monte Judah's corgregaton. He always studies a subject thoroughly before he teaches on that subject. I know him personaly and I trust what he teaches. He was a baptist preacher before he bcame messianic.

(IMHO) The main reason a lot of people don't like his teaching is bacause they haven't fully left the Church, or they don't go to the source to see what he is really teaching. It is no wonder Courts don't allow hearsay as testimony in a trial.

2 house is replacement theology repackaged.

If you accept replacement theology, you'll have no problem with 2 house.

simchat_torah said:

2 house is replacement theology repackaged.

If you accept replacement theology, you'll have no problem with 2 house.

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This might be a little off subject but, do Messianic Jews attend Trinitarian Churches?

christinepro said:

I have always felt Messianic and would love to have more fellowship in this area. The closest congregation is three hours away. We went there for the first time about a month ago. We are planning on going again on Saturday. Otherwise, I go to The Vineyard church in my neighborhood on Sundays and celebrate the Sabbath at home.

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I use to go to a vineyard...John Wimber had some ties to messianic things you know...

we go to a huge Church on Sunday and have a simple Shabbat on Friday Eve and rest all day Sat.(Shabbat) doing things with Family...we use to attend a congregation but they were not accomadating to children and we really need to respect our kids and not make attending a shul torcher for them...

I am hoping that someday the same shul will see that the Church is waiting for them to be ready to meet this same need....