Inspector Vol, that was beyond awesome! Points identical to arguments I have made, with identical Scriptural quotes. It seems so perfectly clear to me, in Scripture, that the nature of our salvation is "fellowship with/in/through Jesus", succinctly "abiding in Him", which is not a "one-time-thing" but rather a "life-long-walk". I have discussed and argued and debated, but not convincing some "OSAS" proponents of the validity of Scripture. Most often they just quit responding, and then days later post elswhere the same exact arguments that I countered with Script
In my immaturity I found that incredibly frustrating. As I grew in Christ and matured, I came to realize basic truths---there IS a Savior, and it's JESUS, not me. I now post the Scriptures as they were written, demonstrating the theological truths. If the person does not accept what the Bible says, that's perfectly OK--- I'm not the One they will ultimately answer to. After all, salvation being "surrender to Jesus", it is HIM and the Holy Spirit that must work in their hearts to "bring to completion the good work began in them" (Phil1). If it does not come to completion, then they have not chosen the "saved relationship/fellowship". Such is their
"Carnal Christianity" is the easiest "OSAS" view to "debunk". Yet, after reading Heb10:26ff, 1Cor6:9ff and Gal5, after citing 2Tim2:11-12 (cause-and-effect, thesis-antithesis that our DENYING HIM equates to our NOT REIGNING WITH HIM), still are people who hold to "carnal Christianity". They actually believe that 1Cor5:5 says Paul gave them to be killed, that their souls would be saved"---which would have unrepentant immoral men, more immoral than Gentiles, entering Heaven!!! (This flying in the face of Jesus' words, that "Unless you REPENT, you WILL PERISH! Luke 13:3) What more can I say to them? Nothing more. If they do not believe Scripture, my words will have no value either.
But we serve a real God, and change comes from within, BECAUSE OF HIM. So I cease the argument (lest my words become mere "disputes/factions/dissentions"), I love them, and I pray for them. That God would convict them from the inside-out.
It is the best I can do...
In my immaturity I found that incredibly frustrating. As I grew in Christ and matured, I came to realize basic truths---there IS a Savior, and it's JESUS, not me. I now post the Scriptures as they were written, demonstrating the theological truths. If the person does not accept what the Bible says, that's perfectly OK--- I'm not the One they will ultimately answer to. After all, salvation being "surrender to Jesus", it is HIM and the Holy Spirit that must work in their hearts to "bring to completion the good work began in them" (Phil1). If it does not come to completion, then they have not chosen the "saved relationship/fellowship". Such is their
"Carnal Christianity" is the easiest "OSAS" view to "debunk". Yet, after reading Heb10:26ff, 1Cor6:9ff and Gal5, after citing 2Tim2:11-12 (cause-and-effect, thesis-antithesis that our DENYING HIM equates to our NOT REIGNING WITH HIM), still are people who hold to "carnal Christianity". They actually believe that 1Cor5:5 says Paul gave them to be killed, that their souls would be saved"---which would have unrepentant immoral men, more immoral than Gentiles, entering Heaven!!! (This flying in the face of Jesus' words, that "Unless you REPENT, you WILL PERISH! Luke 13:3) What more can I say to them? Nothing more. If they do not believe Scripture, my words will have no value either.
But we serve a real God, and change comes from within, BECAUSE OF HIM. So I cease the argument (lest my words become mere "disputes/factions/dissentions"), I love them, and I pray for them. That God would convict them from the inside-out.
It is the best I can do...
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