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well, well thought out sermons dont change lives.
inspiration from the holyspirit is better.
he always has the last words and thoughts from the throne room. as god said to jeremiah I WILL PUT MY WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH. he can do the same with us.
a man filled and walking with the spirit, can preach a better sermon than anything you could ever learn to do.
the holyspirit can quicken your remembrance.
he can give you boldness.
he can give you revelation.
he can give you knowlegde. and anything else you need.

the truely effective way to preach is from being filled and used by the holyspirit, let him preach. its the anointing.

though im not saying you cant use notes or anything, i do that myself, just there is something greater and more important. notes and tactics are good, the holyspirits unction is better.
 
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Did you ever preach? Standing in front of a large group of people and they look at you with ‘fish eyes’ in need for a personal word or miracle”

I am always scared when I step up but after the first few steps of walking on water the fear goes. It’s just to get into the stream of the anointing and then all is fine.

I feel that if I prepare I can bring a much better word to the people.
 
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Originally posted by psalms 22.3
well, well thought out sermons dont change lives.
inspiration from the holyspirit is better.
he always has the last words and thoughts from the throne room. as god said to jeremiah I WILL PUT MY WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH. he can do the same with us.
a man filled and walking with the spirit, can preach a better sermon than anything you could ever learn to do.
the holyspirit can quicken your remembrance.
he can give you boldness.
he can give you revelation.
he can give you knowlegde. and anything else you need.

the truely effective way to preach is from being filled and used by the holyspirit, let him preach. its the anointing.

though im not saying you cant use notes or anything, i do that myself, just there is something greater and more important. notes and tactics are good, the holyspirits unction is better.


God has revealed Himself to man through the Bible! There is no new revelation, just illumination of the Word of God. This comes from the Holy Spirit, but please do not neglect the wonderful teaching of elders and pastors who have spent their lives finding out the truths of God. When I first began preaching at age 16 I had been taught that God would "give" me a sermon. And basically I would think of a topic that I thought God was "giving" me and I would find scriptures that supported my "sermon." :(And basically I was preaching my opinion on topics. But I have found that God isn't giving any new revelation but He has called us to preach His Word. To teach the congregation about His Word and help them to apply it to their life! :idea: As a minister I have come to love expository preaching which IMO is the true form of preaching. In expository preaching one preaches scripture and scripture only which is what God desires. :pray:

Here is what Paul commanded the young pastor Timothy to do:

1 Timothy 4:13
Till I come, give attentions to reading, exhortation, to doctrine.

As ministers we are to read the scriptures to our congregation, to exhort them or urge them in the ways of God, and to teach them doctrine which is only found in the Bible. :cool:



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I've never preached before; I have somewhat of a liking for spreading the gospel. To tell the truth, I'm not even sure it would be fore me to preach for Youth ministry anymore. Most high school students have extremely limited knowledge of the Bible, Jesus, and lots of other theological concepts. I'm not really sure that I'd be able to do that successfully. I think that maybe I should work towards the Evangelism department and work towards the book. I don't think I'd enjoy teaching generalized topics; I'd love to go in-depth systematically teaching... something you can't do for everyone in the High School ministry.

What are your specific goals, if you don't mind sharing?
 
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im sorry, i didnt really mean that you have to just wing it like that. yes i have preached, and yes i do use notes.
but there are times when a person (if they are in the spirit) will be LEAD of god to just forget the notes, and say what the holyspirit leads you to, and that kind of move of god changes lives. im not saying you cant prepare or that you cant use notes and such. those things are good, but without having been in the prayer place with god, and having his message down in your heart and soul and not just on your papers, then your notes are worthless.
it is the holyspirit that reveals the word to the hearts of men, not you or me or anyone else, notes are good, but without him, your words will fall to the ground in front of you, becuase only he can reveal the word to us. you may be speaking it, but if he is not the driving force, it will not penetrate. youll spill your seed on the ground.

as imparting life while making love in intercourse, stimulation does nothing, only real penetration imparts the livegiving substance, and only the holyspirit can do that.

if the word of god is in your heart, if you have a message burning down in you that only god can put there, you could have lost your notes on the way to the meeting, but the holyspirit can pull it out of you himself with amasing results.
again, notes are good, and preperation is a must.
but they are worthless and take 2cd place to being inspired and lead by the spirit. without him, your nothing.

im sorry if that seemed somehow offensive or something to you, i dont mean it that way, i really dont.

jesaiah
just reading the word and quoting it is not enough.
the holyspirit must bring the word to life to you and to everyone else, who was the greatest preacher? jesus right? when did he start his ministry? only after he came down from the mountain from being alone with god for 40 days.
you may be able to quote scripture. but you dont know what god wants said, you dont know what people need at the moment, you dont know how to help those needs, if you arent led by the spirit. and unless you have times alone with god you wont be.
god said he makes his ministers flames of fire, he puts words in their mouths, he puts fire in their bones. though you dont have to have any of that to be labled a preacher today, but like it was in the bible, it is what we really need. it is preaching beyond the ability of man, and preaching in the ability of the Spirit.
unless youve had you removed, and been replaced with him, your no good.

paul was a perfect example. he knew the word, he knew the scripture. but untill he was alone with god, it didnt change him, or anybody else. the word is just falling to the ground, if you havent been in prayer and fasting, and been anointed by god.

yes the word is all revelation, and we dont need new revelation. but as jesus said, you need the holyspirit to teach it to you and bring you into all truth, you need the holyspirit to reveal the word to you.
it is the SPIRIT of a man, that knows.
only the holyspirit can quicken your spirit.
you just reading and quoting with your brain and lips, is not good enough, youll never know the truth, and youll never teach it to anyone else either.

im sorry, im not trying to fight or fuss or offend you. but yes, you can be like isaiah, have been a prophet for years like he was, but not untill you really get alone with god, be changed into anything of worth like he was, YEARS AFTER HE WAS FIRST A PROPHET, your no good. only then did he see god, see his own sin, and attain the desire to go to the nations. but it all starts from being alone with god. thats where he really penetrates you and imparts real power and revelation, just reading it day after day and having a weekly or daily prayer is only stimulation, and you are making him spill his seed.
(if you understand my figurativness)

defender of the faith 777
wait, wait on the lord.
as a man of god was speaking to me just today, you have to wait on the lord and make full proof of your ministry first. dont just jump into a career like that, paul told timothy to not let a baby christian preach, but only a mature man thats been through some tribulation. get some time under your belt, some experience, you must preach from experience, it may be years away, but if you were ready, god would have put you there. your not ready. i am not either, so i feel ya.
but if you go in too early, your sure to fall, you fall man. untill you get deeply rooted in the word, youll be plucked up.
wait, untill god speaks to you peronally and tells you to enter some kind of ministry, dont move. youll fall.

preach a sermon if your asked, lead someone to god if you need to, cast out a devil, heal a sick person, effect the world around you by all means do the works of god, i dont mean you cant do anything for god yet. BUT DO NOT SEEK A CAREER IN THE MINISTRY UNTILL HE SPEAKS. becuase youll fall, if he hasnt spoken, then your not ready.

listen to wisdom man, solomon said that a man who hastens with his feet sinneth! if it is of god, it is eternal, you dont have to worry about losing it by not jumping at it now. take it slow. untill you make yourself fullproof.
and when your ready, the door will open, god will send you, and youll change the world bro! AND ILL BE THERE WITH YA MAN! it may be years maybe 20, maybe 2, who knows, but wait, if your willing to wait, god will use you.
you have to batten down the hatches and dig yourself as deep into the word of god as possible, get so deep nothing can pull you up, grow your roots first.
 
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Hi Psalms,

From your previous post it sounded like you believed the Holy Spirit just "gave" ministers sermons. As if they pulled them out of the air. But what you are speaking of is conviction. It does not matter how many scriptures you can quote or teach if your heart and life is not convicted by God's Word. The Holy Spirit illuminates the scriptures or in other words it brings us to understanding and wisdom.


John 14:26
But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

I don't know about you but I have not received any "special revelation" from God, I just have His Word, the Bible. And the Holy Spirit teaches us concerning the scriptures.



Jesaiah :priest:
 
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im sorry if that seemed somehow offensive or something to you, i dont mean it that way, i really dont
Dont worry :D everything is fine. YOu did not offeded me.

Every preacher has something unique to give and everyone have the right to use their own special way how to give that to the people.

It all depends on how the Holy Spirit led the preacher on that time. I use notes, but only when I flow in the teaching ministry. There is a big difference in the anointing of teaching and prophesying. The teaching anointing is more to ‘make my mind sharp’ while the prophesying anointing ‘make me drunk in the spirit’
 
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What words of wisdom and encouragement Psalms. Dude, I am so far from ready that it's insane. I know that I'm totally not ready to lead a ministry. It would be the epitomy of arrogance to even dream it. I'm slightly scared I guess. I know I shouldn't be. I think I need to develop a stronger dependence and faith in God before I graduate from High School. TTYL Jesus loves you, brother!
 
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DefenderoftheFaith777,

1st off - a bit of clarity to my time in the ministry - I was called at 16 years of age. Counting my sixtenth year through to my now 24th is 9 years , but if memory serves I am less than a year away from 10 years.

Also, The only formal education I have is through highschool. I did finish my fourth term of Bible Training Institute which is a 2 week course through basics of doctrine, practice and structure of The Church of God. Other than that - Upon announcing my call to preach my pastore and deacon, etc. gave me oppurtunitties to speak in the local church ( thus with oversight, accountability, and alot of understanding and patience ). The local church in conference reccommended I be set forth as a Lay Minister - not fully licensed but being proved/ in training - when they felt that the call of God was evident on my life and that I was being faithful to the Lord and his call. I remained in this capacity in esscence for about two years. Then the conference again reccommended I be set forth as a Licensed Minister in The Church of God, again judging my faithfullness to the work and in conversation. Then the presbytery, with no disagreement, saw that this was carried through.

I will say this ... preaching is the easy part when you must not only decalre the word but tend and lead the sheep! I will offer any help I can - I want to be edifying... but remeber we are to minister according to the ability that God gives. There is grace given unto everyone of us for our own work in the total ministry as disciples of Christ.

just a not about preparing sermons, being inspired in a different direction in spite of preperation, etc. Sure the Spirit may give inspiration in such a manner, and we are only right to follow - but he also inspired paul to say " study to show thyself approved unto God ".

A quote which has stuck with me accross the years of taking those BTI courses which seems most approriate when trying to keep this issue in balance...

"To fail to prepare is to prepare to fail!"

your brother in Christ
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Here are some links to transcripts of a sermon series by John MacArthur entitled: "Why I Teach The Bible."

Non-Negotiables of the Church: Honoring God's Word

Five Reasons to Preach the Word


Also I have a few questions to ask:

1) Who are your favorite teachers or preachers?

2) In your earlier post you said:
you may be able to quote scripture. but you dont know what god wants said, you dont know what people need at the moment, you dont know how to help those needs, if you arent led by the spirit.

Could you please elaborate on this statement? What does God want us to say besides His Word? What do people need besides His Word?

Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.


I would also like to offer a few more links that might be helpful:

The Sufficiency of Scripture: Part 1

The Sufficiency of Scripture: Part 2


I hope this is helpful to you in understanding my point of view.


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well, im not really talking about conviction. im talking about you being FILLED with the holyghost, i dont really know a specific definition or word to say to better explain myself. it is where your mind is quickened, your eyes are opened, and you see things you have never seen before, and things come together like they never have before, the word comes to so much more life. and you can teach people things they never knew, even though theyve read the bible their entire life. you see HIDDEN THINGS in the word, i dont mean that god hide things, i mean there are some things that are yet to be found, untill the holyspirit unburies them and shows them to us.

i mean specail revelation, as in new truthes, new meanings, things youve read over your entire life, yet you never saw it, and one day, god just shows it to you, and you go WHAO MOMMA! I NEVER SAW THAT BEFORE! theres no much more there than letters.

my faveorite teachers and preachers?
uhmm,
troy bell, my sunday school teacher.
and, lots of dead men like a.w. tozer, smith wigglesworth.
i also like t.d. jakes alot.
smith wigglesworth would have to be my altime greatest mentor, as in, i love his teaching and preachin alot, though i dont compare and make competitors of men.

i mean, you dont know how those people feel right now, what they went through today, but the holyspirit does. you dont know the exact words they need to hear, but the holyspirit does.
 
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Hi Psalms,

In your first reply to my original post to you, you said:
yes the word is all revelation, and we dont need new revelation

But in your last post you said:
i mean specail revelation, as in new truthes, new meanings, things youve read over your entire life, yet you never saw it, and one day, god just shows it to you

So which answer is your true answer? :scratch:

Next you said:
yet you never saw it, and one day, god just shows it to you, and you go WHAO MOMMA! I NEVER SAW THAT BEFORE! theres no much more there than letters.

This is called illumination, not revelation. Secondly it also helps to understand who the prophets and apostles were writing to or speaking to originally in order to understand their true meanings and applications. This comes through study and illumination of God's Word by the Holy Spirit.

I asked who were your favorite teachers or preachers and you answered:
troy bell, my sunday school teacher.
and, lots of dead men like a.w. tozer, smith wigglesworth.
i also like t.d. jakes alot.
smith wigglesworth would have to be my altime greatest mentor, as in, i love his teaching and preachin alot, though i dont compare and make competitors of men.

Thank you for answering this question as out of place from our conversation it may have seemed. Your answer gives me a small understanding of your point of view. I assumed that you would mention people like T.D. Jakes, or Rod Parsley (who also admires Smith Wigglesworth), and Tozer is good also. I was just curious.

Finally I asked you to elaborate on this statement you made:
you may be able to quote scripture. but you dont know what god wants said, you dont know what people need at the moment, you dont know how to help those needs, if you arent led by the spirit.

And you responded:
i mean, you dont know how those people feel right now, what they went through today, but the holyspirit does. you dont know the exact words they need to hear, but the holyspirit does.

But what is it that people need to hear? Is God's Word insufficient? The problem with this idea is that everyone among the congregation is not going to "feel" the same way. I may have a bad day and you may have a great day, so who do we minister to? I may have experienced something that day that you may have not (this is the same for the entire congregation), so how does this work?


It seems to be more beneficiary to preach the Word according to ones spiritual needs rather than their emotions.


Jesaiah

Ps. I am not trying to attack you or argue with you I am just curious about your statements. :)
 
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ok,
i do not see how those 2 contradict, sorry if my wording made it seem that way.
i am saying
NO THERE IS NO NEW SCRIPTURE, but yes, there is always new revelation or as you call it ILLUMINATION, new things that the holyspirit has revealed or illuminated for you about his word.

well, im not neccarily in agreement with everyman that looks up to smith wigglesworth, but yes i do enjoy smith wigglesworth.

gods word is enough, but gods word covers so many diffrent issues. a person in who needs their joy in the lord to be refilled doesnt need to hear about how we will receive persecution and trail and maybe be martyrs. but would need something like how jesus overcame and we all can overcome.

and since you do not know what the person needs at the moment, becuase you dont know what theyve been through, you really dont know what to say to them. so, you must really on the holyspirit to tell you what to say. and without the annointing, you cant really help people, becuase you do not know what they need.

yes GODS WORD is enough, but what part of gods word? if am in need of healing, i want to hear about how god can heal me. i do not need to hear a sermon or a teaching on the life of stephen, since that has a diffrent point to it.

maybe your preaching on how satan is the ruler of this world, but maybe someone needs to hear about how to prosper financaily. a diffrent part of the word.

you ask "who do we minister to?" at that time, you take a back seat and let the holyspirit say what he wants, then his will be done, and that is always best. becuase he knows the needs of the people as you do not, so he knows what is best said, as you do not. but unless you can hear the holyspirits voice, you cant do this, and unless youve been in prayer you cant hear him.

yes it is more beneificail to preach according to needs,
but how in the world do you know what they need? since you dont know their lives.

tell me friend,
what teaching do i need to hear today?
you couldnt possiibly be accurate without the leading of the spirit.
and you couldnt possible be lead by the spirit, if you havent been in prayer and been annointed.
we need the holyspirit to cloth our weakness with his power. the essence of the annointing, even jesus needed it.
 
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yes GODS WORD is enough, but what part of gods word? if am in need of healing, i want to hear about how god can heal me. i do not need to hear a sermon or a teaching on the life of stephen, since that has a diffrent point to it.

maybe your preaching on how satan is the ruler of this world, but maybe someone needs to hear about how to prosper financaily. a diffrent part of the word.

you ask "who do we minister to?" at that time, you take a back seat and let the holyspirit say what he wants, then his will be done, and that is always best. becuase he knows the needs of the people as you do not, so he knows what is best said, as you do not. but unless you can hear the holyspirits voice, you cant do this, and unless youve been in prayer you cant hear him.

So we go into the pulpit unprepared because we don't know what the people need, and we just sit and wait for the Holy Spirit. What is the use in studying?

yes it is more beneificail to preach according to needs,
but how in the world do you know what they need? since you dont know their lives.

Well this is an easy answer but hard work. A pastor should know the spiritiual state of the congregation by taking time to talk to them and discuss doctrines with them, this helps one to understand if one is grounded in the Word or if one is still beginning to understand the basic christian truths. I recommend a book by Richard Baxter "The Reformed Pastor." This is hard work but what is more important than the care of people's souls?


I have a question for you: Why do we have so many people going for every "biblical gimmic" such as prosperity preachers, word of faith teachers, and who follow after teachers who are so unbiblical in many of their teachings?

I will give you my answer: They have not been grounded in the Word. So many people are falling from the faith and are so infantile in their beliefs and why? Because ministers would rather preach to their feelings rather than things that build their spiritual man.


Thanks for the discussion. :)



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i didnt say to go into the pulpit unprepared. if your intune with the spirit and close to him and full of the word, your prepared. though yes sometimes god does tell us what he will have us say on the next time we preach and we prepare for that, but not always. he doesnt always tell us, and in those times, you must wait on him, and rely on him, and you cant do this unless youve been in much prayer and are working in the anointing.

whats the use in studying?
thats why you never go into the bible looking for a sermon. you go there looking for food for yourself, and what you find, you show to others. the motive for your studying should not be to find a good sermon, you go and eat from it yourself, and when you find food, then you give it to others. thats the use in studying. you fill your life with studying to feed yourself, not to teach others, and when youve done that, your much more effective becuase youve already preached it, to yourself. and it is down in you, your full of that word, and the holyspirit can just bring it out of you.

well, take my pastor for example, he pastors a church of many thousands of people. it would be impossible for him to sit down and discuss with each one, without sacrificing his own family and time of intamicy with god. that simply doesnt work with large ministries, as is clear from the fact that the disciples had to apoint deacons in the book of acts. they clearly said that they needed time to be alone with god and left the rest of the work up to other workers in the church. i am not saying pastors arent supposed to talk and care about their people, but it is clear that it is impossible for pastors of large ministries to know personally every member.

hmmmm
such unbiblical teachings as prosperity and word of faith?
well, just to let you know, i am pentecostal, and i will never agree with you that those things are unbiblical, i can quote you scripture all day why they are true.

but to just go with you, yes i do agree we all need to be founded in the word so we arent decieved by false teachings. and yes the word of god is better than the greatest feeling, and is more important.
but anyone who preaches the word, and is full of the holyghost, will soon find god is a god of emotion and emotion does overflow when preaching the word.
the word of god, always brings good news to the righteous, there is plenty to be emotional about. and anyone who really knows god knows the great depths of his goodness, and he will be emotional. because it is good news!!!!

jesus was filled with zeal. david was filled with joy. peter was filled with firey passion. mary's heart did magnify the lord!
i assume one could stand still with hands in their pockets and a stone face and say "MY SOUL DOTH MAGNIFY THE LORD!"
no, absolutely not. but we would dance like david danced!

the song of solomon, the great joy of david, etc.
the bible is an emotional book, and god is an emotional god.
though yes you need to make sure you dont let emotion cloud your vision.
 
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hmmmm
such unbiblical teachings as prosperity and word of faith?
well, just to let you know, i am pentecostal, and i will never agree with you that those things are unbiblical, i can quote you scripture all day why they are true.

I would like to post some info on the Word of Faith movement. Just a point of view you might want to read. :wave:


Word of faith movement selected bibliography


An aberrational theology affirms essential orthodox Christianity, but it adds teachings that undermine the profession of true orthodoxy. A heretical theology, on the other hand, outright denies essential doctrines of Christianity, and groups that adhere to a heretical teaching are considered to be cults. Some of the best-known American television evangelists subscribe either in whole or in part to the unbiblical teaching known as “positive confession,” the “faith” teaching, or the “prosperity” message. Its chief representatives include Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Fred Price, Paul and Jan Crouch, John Avanzini, Benny Hinn, Marilyn Hickey, Creflo Dollar, Myles Munroe, and Rod Parsley. In the past, CRI has attempted to meet with some of the people listed above to dialogue with them concerning their false teachings; however, most of them have refused.

The major tenets of the Word of Faith movement betray the fact that it is in opposition to mainstream, evangelical Christianity. It asserts that God created human beings in “God’s class” as “little gods.” Before the fall, humans had the potential to exercise a “God kind of faith” and could call things into existence. Humans took on Satan’s nature by rebelling against God in the Garden of Eden, thus losing the ability to call things into existence. In order to correct this situation, Jesus Christ became a man, died spiritually (taking Satan’s nature upon Himself), went to hell, was “born again,” and rose from the dead with God's nature. After this, Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to duplicate the Incarnation in believers so they might fulfill their calling to be little gods. It follows, then, that those who have had the Incarnation duplicated in them by the Holy Spirit (thus giving them the ability to exercise the “God kind of faith”) should be successful in every area of their lives. Furthermore, hardships like indebtedness, illness, and even being left by one’s spouse show lack of faith because these problems should be eliminated by “claiming” God’s promises. While certain details of the above outlined doctrine vary from teacher to teacher, the general outline remains the same. CRI considers this teaching in its complete form to be at best aberrational and at worst heretical.

The following bibliography lists a number of excellent books to aid you in your study of the Word of Faith movement. We have included the ordering information for books that can be purchased from the CRI bookstore, resource center, or Web site (www.equip.org) for informational purposes only. The fact that we carry certain books and not others does not necessarily imply that CRI endorses the books we carry over the books we do not. In addition, CRI does not necessarily endorse all of the views expressed in the books listed.

Tada, Joni Eareckson and Steve Estes. A Step Further: Growing Closer to God Through Hurt and Hardship. Grand Rapids,
MI: Zondervan, 2001.

The famous story of a young woman who became paraplegic and learned to glorify God when she was not healed; written at the lay level; 208 pages total


Hanegraaff, Hank. Christianity in Crisis. Eugene, OR: Harvest House, 1993.

This best-selling, award-winning book provides a thorough analysis and biblical refutation of the major teachings of the Word of Faith Movement; written at the lay level; 590 pages total
CRI ITEM #B400--$13.00 AUDIO BOOK: CRI ITEM #C139--$15.00



Fee, Gordon D. The Disease of the Health and Wealth Gospels. Costa Mesa, CA: The Word for Today, 1979.

Biblical critique of the Word of Faith movement's teaching that God wants all Christians to experience health and prosperity; written at the lay level; 31 pages total
CRI ITEM #P076--$2.50



McConnell, D. R. A Different Gospel. Peabody, MA: Hendrickson, 1995.

Offers the history of the doctrines of the Word of Faith movement and discusses related false teachings; includes foreword by Hank Hanegraaff; written at the lay level; 226 pages total
CRI ITEM #B099--$13.00



Parker, Larry and Don Tanner. We Let Our Son Die. Eugene, OR: Harvest House, 1980.*

Author Larry Parker and his wife tell how they lost their son because they stopped medical treatment believing in the Word of Faith movement teachings that in "faith" he would be healed; written at the lay level; 208 pages total


*OUT OF PRINT. Although this resource is out of print, it may be found at public libraries, seminaries, universities and colleges, used bookstores, and through Online book tracking services.

Christian Research Institute, P.O. Box 7000, Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

Phone (949) 858-6100 and Fax (949) 858-6111
 
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Hi all,

I am a 53 year old engineer/pastoral ministries student (6 hours to go). I am also a Christian musician and active in music ministry. I am currently an ordained elder in my home church. I plan to retire from design engineering (early) and let God show me where He wants me to be. I have been preaching some at area churches along with doing some special music. In all of my public working life I thought I would retire to a place on the lake, a boat and nothing but time for myself. That seems such a waste to me now, and all I want to do is introduce people to Jesus and see them grow into committed followers.

Blessings
 
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Originally posted by eldermike
Hi all,

I am a 53 year old engineer/pastoral ministries student (6 hours to go). I am also a Christian musician and active in music ministry. I am currently an ordained elder in my home church. I plan to retire from design engineering (early) and let God show me where He wants me to be. I have been preaching some at area churches along with doing some special music. In all of my public working life I thought I would retire to a place on the lake, a boat and nothing but time for myself. That seems such a waste to me now, and all I want to do is introduce people to Jesus and see them grow into committed followers.

Blessings


What a wonderful testimony ElderMike!!!!

I am only 19, but I look forward to spending the rest of my life studying God's Word and following Him. It is my desire to grow old trusting and growing in the Lord. I am young now, but by God's Grace I will grow stronger in Him and become more effective for His Kingdom!

May God Bless,

Jesaiah
 
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