Death Penalty

darn!

I am opposed to the death penalty in the US where I believe the jails are secure enough to keep bad people in.

However, I believe that the concept of the Death Penalty is morally just and appropriate under certain circumstances.

So I guess I am going to vote "Christian - Against Death Penalty"

2) It (likely?) costs more money to execute someone rather than keeping that person in prison for life.. I'm not completely sure where I heard this.. If this is true, I think this is probably the most compelling argument against the death penalty from a practical perspective---

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It's true, the appeals process means lots of lawyers raking in lots of dough. Although this could be fixed by reforming the appeals process, or even the trials themselves.

1) If one innocent person is killed, that should be enough to not have the death penalty

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This is a good reason not to practice it, although I believe there are people who should be executed although the system is innadequete to sort out the guilty from the innocent. And with the above, how could you trust a legal system that has to go through tons of repeat trials to make sure they are right? Shouldn't a good trial system need only a few retrials?

Death ènalty is not justice, is pure vengeance. It has no purpose at all.
Plus, I remember a certain "Thou shall not kill" rule. If we allow our representants to do this, we became, we all, murderers.

against

but also against luxury prisons

sometimes I wonder,there was just case here,a teacher used 10 -11 year old girl,
whos dad died,for some time,and got only 8 years..that means he will serve some 4 years and will be free...

Roark said:

Who decides whether or not a man deserves execution? Do you trust our judicial system that much to get it right? I don't.

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Though it doesn't get it right everytime, I have to trust the judicial system. HOwever, as I stated, I don't support the DP in the US (do not see it as necessary).

cheers

Death ènalty is not justice, is pure vengeance. It has no purpose at all.

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No, it is also about protecting society. This may not be true in the days of prisons the size of smal cities, but it used to be the about only way to keep someone from killing or whatever again was to execute them.

Even with modern prison complexes and LWOP you would still have problems with inmates at least being threats to other inmates.

If we are not to have the DP out of fear of accidenlty executing an innocent, what of the fear of a guilty person left alive commiting some atrocity again?

Roark said:

I'm certain that innocent men have been killed... Our system isn't bullet proof

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Agreed.

Roark said:

2) It (likely?) costs more money to execute someone rather than keeping that person in prison for life.. I'm not completely sure where I heard this.. If this is true, I think this is probably the most compelling argument against the death penalty from a practical perspective---

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yeah, I heard this too... but my information comes from some guy in a chatroom... anyway... he explained it to me that it is because there is an automatic retrial in death penalty cases, which costs a great deal more (apparently) than keeping him in prison for life...

The death penalty is minus 15% but if a cleric reses you it can be brought down to almost 2 percent.

Besides cost, what's the difference between the death penalty and keeping someone in jail for the rest of their life? I'd especially like to hear answers from atheists.

Roark said:

link?

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Well thats mostly universal for most mmorpgs.

Roark said:

Death Penalty ?

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They had no mercy on their victims therefore, I say, let the ******* fry.

Another issue is this debate is the question of if the death penalty is effective in deterring crime. Doesn't appear to be. Furthermore, the death penalty is only brought up as a potential punishment for serious crimes. But people still commit serious crimes knowing if they're caught they may die for it.

I think a strong argument against it is has already been brought up, possibly executing innocent people.

Another issue is this debate is the question of if the death penalty is effective in deterring crime. Doesn't appear to be. Furthermore, the death penalty is only brought up as a potential punishment for serious crimes. But people still commit serious crimes knowing if they're caught they may die for it.

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...and therefore the prisons should be emptied since people still commit serious crimes knowing if they're caught they may go to prison for it.

It doesn't matter if killing sociapath A so he can't kill again doesn't deter sociopath B.

I voted non-Christian pro-dp. But every situation is different. It is not a simple 'yes' or 'no' question.