Yassin Killed: A Big Day For Israel

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i am not about to say they dont brainwash people and commit horrible hate crimes, i agree. i am just saying everyone over there needs prayers. because a lot of bad stuff has, is and will take place.
 
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Listen, I don't know Big Toe, infact I have never seen her post but I certainly do see her point. Do you think that everyone that lives in Palestine is bad?? There are women and children that are suffering there as well. It is inhuman not to understand that.

I read her posts and I do not see where she said anything wrong. The INNOCENT should be prayed for. I think hate and anger are blinding some. Take a deep breathe and then consider ANY baby of any nationality dying, tell me they do not need our prayers.

Everyone there that is INNOCENT and suffering should be prayed for that they may find mercy.
 
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ILY said:
C4C,
I encourage you as well to watch the video, as these children, act upon that which they are taught.Sad, :( but nonetheless true.

Prayers of Shalom to all :hug:

ILY<><
I don't agree at all with anything that is being done wrong and I don't need to watch the videos to know. I saw children dancing in the street, cheering after 9/11.

I just also know that there are innocents in every situation. A two year old child that gets his or her face blown off is a terrible thing no matter who their parents are...
 
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Pray4Isrel said:
A few?
You are in a forum full of people that have been to Israel, live there and have studied it for years. You are also in a forum full of Jewish people that understand what it's like to be hated, misrepresented and discriminated against. The terrorists want us dead and they want you dead. Did you not see them chanting on the news today for the destruction of Israel and the UNITED STATES???
These terrorists are not few... they are everywhere and they are infiltrating. They don't just want Jews dead... they want YOU dead too. When people finalyy realize this, they will stop defending the enemies of G-d.
The Israelis are innocent, the Palestinian/Arab terrorists are fully guilty.
I am tired of people defending murderers that strap on dynamite and blow up babies and men and women in cafes.

Sorry, I can't take this anymore. People blindly defend the enemies of G-d.

Pardon my zeal... it's a battle I fight everyday: to defend Israel by educating and informing people that would rather listen to the media instead of valid sources.



Jesus prayed for everyone, he died for everyone, including those who wanted Him dead, and did so knowing they would betray Him. Praying for someone doesn't mean you condone there actions, it means you pray for Him to guide them.
Side note, education rarely comes through insults, maybe try educating instead of insulting, if you'd like to get your point across? You are more likely to teach someone that way.
Those militants where once children who grew up, the only way they knew how, the cycle can be broken, history has proved this time and time again, only good can come from praying for those militants.
 
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Shalom all,
I am not in disagreement with your sentiments.I believe the children are victims as well.Even as they are taught hatred, they are victims of indoctrination.I pray for all those who are innocent.As far as the video, it is another reason why we should pray for them as well.If Walid who was the former Arab/Palestinian, now Christian, can change then others can as well.If fact that is one of his goals is to go back to prison he was in in Isarel and teahc them there is a better way than hate and violence etc...

YbiY
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You know I see a couple of key things being over looked here. First, we all profess to believe in Jesus and His teachings correct? If that is true then what Big Toe said was in accordance to that. The day we forget what HE said and allow our emotions to take over is the day we may as well just throw in the towel. Guys he said "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you"
 
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i respect what you do, and i appreciate it more than you know. i hope you realize that Erin. we've obviously gotten off on a completely wrong foot. i guess my thing is that we are called to pray for everyone, not just those we support. because if we aren't praying for the bad guys, who is to say they will ever change? sure the ones there now might not, but their children might and then be able to stop the grossness thats going on. honestly all i meant is that we should pray for everyone.
 
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I want to explain myself a little better because I feel it is neccesary. I know that it is impossible to act as Jesus did. We are human and we are sinners. I do not always love my enemies or pray for those who persecute me. If I did that, I would be perfect, wouldn't I? I am far from perfect and I understand your pain. The thing is, we should STRIVE to live like Him. Will we fall short? You can bet on it. I saw an attempt here to preach Jesus's word and I saw one being shot down for it and I felt I had to respond. I hope I haven't offened anyone with my posts. I just felt the need to point out that Big Toe was posting in accordance to what He taught and I think you should take it easy on her. :sorry:
 
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Shalom all,
I am in agreement that we should pray for all, as I have stated previousley.
The video I gave the link to is from a man who was born in Bethlehem Israel, and lived in Jericho during the 6 days war.He grew up in the indoctrination, and that is what he is taking about in his video.It is informative to say the least.

If you want just do a simple search of his name, "Walid Shoebat.

Shalom in H_M <><
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Attention Gentile Christians: this is the Messianic forum and we are not to debate here! Please stop! There must be a gazillion threads about this subject by now in fora in which we may debate, if we wish, but we are not to do it here! :cry:
 
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This is the thing, we need to pray for Israel protection, most of the land now ocupied by Arabs rightfully belongs to Israel, it's their promissed land that was given to them by G-d.
Now, most of the Arabs are Muslims and they are brainwashed to hate Israel, and they all do, not only Muslims, but most of the world hates Israel.
Right now the Arab world hates Israel and Israel has the right to defend itself, we need to pray that G-d would deliver Israel from their enemies, by killing them if necessary, on the other hand we also need to pray that G-d would reveal Himself to Muslims so they may repent from the wrong they are doing and give their lives to G-d otherwise they will be destroyed, either by Israel or by G-d Himself.
G-d will protect His people, it's His promisse to the nation of Israel. He will bless those who bless Israel and He will curse those who curse it. Therefore the Muslim world better repent from their ways or they will be destroyed.

I believe the only reason why the U.S. is "safe" and it's still a great place to live is because we support Israel, otherwise I believe judgement would have come to this nation a long time ago due to people turning away from G-d and turning to sinfull lifestyles that are an abomination before G-d.

Shalom,
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Plan 9 said:
Attention Gentile Christians: this is the Messianic forum and we are not to debate here! Please stop! There must be a gazillion threads about this subject by now in fora in which we may debate, if we wish, but we are not to do it here! :cry:
I don't think I've shared with you how pleased I am to see you around these parts, Plan! :)
(No, not just for this post!)
 
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Tribe said:
I don't think I've shared with you how pleased I am to see you around these parts, Plan! :)
(No, not just for this post!)

These are the best parts of these here parts for me. :D
It was a big day for me when I saw you were back. I've missed you, Tribe. :)
 
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Talmidah said:
{{{Pastor George}}} :cry: :cry: :(
My father and I were forced to wait three weeks to discover if my brother and sister-in-law were still living. Had the rubble rolled three more blocks we would have waited much longer to have their remains identified. :sigh:
 
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