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And it happened at a Lutheran private school. Sad but true. It appeared to be consentual, but the teacher obviously used her role as teacher to seduce the student. What I don't get is, I thought marriage was a cure for homosexual tendencies. Maybe not.:scratch:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/174400p-151889c.html
 

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Veritas said:
What I don't get is, I thought marriage was a cure for homosexual tendencies. Maybe not.:scratch:

Not that I've ever heard of. Sometimes a way to sublimate them, but... The stuff I've heard about the attempts has not filled me with confidence for them.

But, in general, being married doesn't change your orientation, it just changes your responsibilities.
 
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Lesbian, gay, heterosexual... teachers shouldn't be having relationships with their students in my humble opinion. If it's true love... you can wait a few years till the student is student no more.
Having an affair when you're married... well... it says enough about the value you give to your pledge. *ss* I don't want to judge this teacher, it isn't my place. So I hope that the emotional problems that will flow from this will be solved and all involved will become happy.
 
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You know I have tried very hard to stay out of Homosexuality threads because I am so violently against it. I do not agree with it and no matter what you do to try me understand it I will not. Sarcastic or not, being married is not the cure for being Gay. I have seen many people that have been able to change their lives around from the depravity, and yes I do say depravity because in the Bible it is described as depraved.

But to sit there and bring with you a child too is just outright disgusting and selfish. I wonder if the school knew when they hired her that she was a Homosexual....
 
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Her having a relationship with a child has nothing to do with her homosexuality. I suggest you read the news and see the countless times both female and male teachers have gotten into trouble for having relationships with students of the opposite sex. I agree that a teacher taking advantage of a student is disgusting and selfish, but to turn this into a homosexual issue is just plain ignorant, because it isn't just homosexuals who have done this.
 
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I believe Veritas is being sarcastic because those who want to see the celibate priesthood done away with (and probably wouldn't mind Catholicism itself dying a painful and horrible death) keep claiming that if these sorts of people were married, such incidences would decrease.
 
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I believe Veritas is being sarcastic because those who want to see the celibate priesthood done away with (and probably wouldn't mind Catholicism itself dying a painful and horrible death) keep claiming that if these sorts of people were married, such incidences would decrease.

Ok, I understand now, thanks!
 
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The woman she had the relationship was 17, which I'm sure is above the age of consent. It's 16 in most states. (Heck, wasn't Jerry Seinfeld dating a 17 year old a few years ago?)

The sodomy charge should be thrown out as unconstitutional under ... was it Lawrence? I don't know about sexual abuse, but she was in a position of authority. And endangering the welfar of a child... well, you shouldn't have her out and lying to her parents about her whereabouts. Still, this case shouldn't be prosecuted, IMO.
 
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nyj said:
I believe Veritas is being sarcastic because those who want to see the celibate priesthood done away with (and probably wouldn't mind Catholicism itself dying a painful and horrible death) keep claiming that if these sorts of people were married, such incidences would decrease.

The idea isn't that homosexual pedophile priests will marry women and not molest, it's that normal heterosexual (married) men will enter the priesthood in greater numbers and the gays/pedophiles will shrink as a percentage of priests, thereby reducing the frequency of molestations and changing the culture within the clergy. IMHO, we should not hide behind celibacy as a clandestine way of supporting pedophilia among priests.
 
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JillLars said:
Her having a relationship with a child has nothing to do with her homosexuality. I suggest you read the news and see the countless times both female and male teachers have gotten into trouble for having relationships with students of the opposite sex. I agree that a teacher taking advantage of a student is disgusting and selfish, but to turn this into a homosexual issue is just plain ignorant, because it isn't just homosexuals who have done this.
I suggest you look the word ignorant in the dictionary and then get back to me on that.
Next, we are only talking specifically about this case. I fyou would like to know my whole philosphy on the other issue then ask me and I will be more than glad to tell you.
It goes as such, I do not believe that any teacher should be having an affair with any student, period. Especially if that child is a minor. And I am sorry I am a mother of three children, I do not care if the law says it is 16 yrs of age that is still too young to be engaging in a relationship with anyone no less a sexual one. Maybe to start dating someone but not have a serious relationship with them....I would never allow that of my children. Just ask my 20 year old daughter she will tell you.
They are still way too vulnerable at that age to be engaging in that kind of activity. No less to be having an affair with someone that is so much older than them and married .....What?!?! Man or Woman that is just wrong......
As far as the Homosexuality issue goes I am sorry but umm tell me do you post here because this is fun for you or because you are here to seriously talk about the Bible and what it has to say? Because the last time I looked it was against Bible principles to engage in Homosexuality. That is not going to change and the Bible and it';s principles are infallible.
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PeterPaul said:
Yeah, unfortunately the debate will begin on age consent and eventually pedophilia. Look at one of the covers of a magazine that had naked lesbians on it, "Not Your Mother's Lesbians".

Imagine that.
Anything to bring the issue around to something else I tell you nothing surprises me anymore......
 
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nyj said:
I believe Veritas is being sarcastic because those who want to see the celibate priesthood done away with (and probably wouldn't mind Catholicism itself dying a painful and horrible death) keep claiming that if these sorts of people were married, such incidences would decrease.
Thanks, NYJ, you got it! I'm sorry if I was vague, but as you say, I get tired of hearing that if priests were allowed to marry, the sex abuse would just go away. This situation proves that marriage is not a cure for deviancy or immorality. The vast majority of perpetrators are married people, not celibate types (like myself, I might add)
Although this is a sad situation, I'm a little puzzled as to why the girl is not "devastated". Maybe she'll have a delayed reaction 30 years later and then sue the school. Who knows?
 
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RhetorTheo said:
IMHO, we should not hide behind celibacy as a clandestine way of supporting pedophilia among priests.
I don't believe NYJ was attempting to do that. You might be correct about the possibility of hetero-males entering the priesthood in greater numbers if they were allowed to marry. But aside from all the other problems that would create, again, marriage is not a cure for deviancy or immorality. Most sex abusers are married hetero-males. They are usually family members or close aquaintances of the victim. Sadly, step-families are the most fertile ground for abuse. Sin is sin no matter what form it takes.:(
 
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RhetorTheo said:
The idea isn't that homosexual pedophile priests will marry women and not molest, it's that normal heterosexual (married) men will enter the priesthood in greater numbers ...
You are naive to think that would be the case. Do you have any solid evidence to support this conclusion?

Of course, with a married priesthood, we have the greater risk of adulterous affairs, heterosexual sexual abuse and divorce. No, no thank you. St. Paul was right on this one, and I think the Church is wise to insist on choosing it's priest from those who have willingly made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom.
 
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Why do we have to attack the priesthood period? Just because some men have made mistakes just as many of them have made mistakes that are not priests. For goodness sakes you have people out there that are married and have families and are still pedofiles. It has nothing to do with being a priest or not, it has to do with sexual deviancy. These people are sick. And then on top of all of that to single them out is just not right. This is just another way to attack us period.
 
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