nobdysfool said:It's not "a" verse. That's where you miss the point. It is a series of verses, and passages that, when taken together, point to the fact that Christ had a specific set of people in mind as He went to the Cross, that He was sent to achieve the redemption of a specific set of people, and that His work on the Cross was not just potential, or a provision, for an as yet un-named and unrealized group or even of all mankind without exception, but specific, particular, and actually accomplished the salvation, in toto, of those whom He died for, and not contingent upon their response, but upon God's unchanging Will and Counsel, whereby He determined to save those whom He chose to save before the foundation of the world, and in Christ, sealed their salvation with His own Blood.
Early on in this thread many verses were given, from the OT and NT that clearly demonstrate that God determined to save a particular people.
However, Edail's thoroughly intellectually dishonest response is simple to wave them off and say they have never been presented.
That is why I will not jump through his dishonest hoops any longer.
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