Originally posted by Hank
You did not read one thing I wrote.
Hank quoting Hank:
In short quote me the Bible and show me were masturbation is a sin.
To 1 - It is the Christian saying masturbation is sin, not I. Therefore the burden of biblical prove is still in your court!
To 2 - Again see 1.
To 3 - I never said you were. Read my post, it applies to Christians.
To 4 - This is my opinion about you, based on what you wrote. Keep in mind I was a Christian.
To 5 - Salomon wrote to enjoy life and keep pleasures to limits since they are all but useless in the end. Not sure how else to phrase my sentence. If it gives you pleasure but hurts no one, what could possibly be wrong with it?
HERE ARE YOUR BIBLE VERSES
This is not exhaustive, but it does the job. Please read it all, and process it as if you really want to give it a chance. I will provide the verses, principles, and questions that a christian should ask himself or herself to determine if masturbation is sinful.
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1 Corinthians 6: 12-13
"Everything is permissible for me"--but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"--but I will not be mastered by anything. "Food for the stomach and the stomach for food"--but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.
1 Corinthians 6: 17-20
But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
Ephesians 5: 3-4
But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.
1 Thessalonians 4: 1-8
Finally, brothers, we instructed you how to live in order to please God, as in fact you are living. Now we ask you and urge you in the Lord Jesus to do this more and more. For you know what instructions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus. It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God; and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother or take advantage of him. The Lord will punish men for all such sins, as we have already told you and warned you. For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. Therefore, he who rejects this instruction does not reject man but God, who gives you his Holy Spirit.
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Principles:
1. Your body is meant for the Lord, not sexual immorality.
2. You were bought at a price, honor God with your body, sexual immorality is a sin against your body, which is the temple of the Holy Spirit, the place in which God dwells.
3. Do not even have a HINT of sexual immorality among you.
4. It is God's will that you be sanctified, that you learn to control your own body in a way that holy and honorable, not in lust. God called us to be holy.
Questions :
1. Does masturbation master you? It is stopping you from allowing your body to be used for the Lord?
2. Do you honor God with your temple/body?
3. Do you consider masturbating (which includes lustful thougths) to be a hint of sexual immorality?
4. When you touch, do you show control of your body?
Do you show honor to God when lust takes control of your body?
