The better the college?

Not true.... there are plenty of colleges out there that will take students who don't have the "4.0 GPA with all of the extracurriculars etc.." Once you get into a college, make the best of it. Study something that you like and that you can get a job in later, for example... accounting, nursing or something that needs workers. Do your best in college to learn your field and gain experience, and also learn how to speak in public. It will definitely give you an advantage when you look for a job later on... It will tell your employer "hey! This is who I am, and what I can do. I will work hard and be a good employee. Hire me over that shy guy." lol.

Oh, and community colleges are NOT BAD. They are great, in fact. It gives you a foundation for college. You can also get some great money earning jobs with just an associates degree.

If you're lucky, you might even be able to find a job that doesn't require you to go to college, and still make money. It all depends on how hard you work towards your dream in whatever direction you choose.

College searching and decisions is really really stressful. I wish I didn't have to go through with it, but it consumes a ton of my time. Don't get too stressed out. God knows what's in store for you. He won't ask you to do anything without preparing you for it first. Trust in him. (It's hard... I know)

Good luck and God bless ya. Let us know how things are going later!

I think your high school GPA does have at least a little bit to do with getting into college, but just because you don't get into a huge school doesn't mean that you won't be successful in life. I attend a branch of a bigger university, and while it's not the most challenging college around, or the most prestigious, I enjoy it. I will earn my degree in Education and begin to build a career just like the person who shares my major but went to the big university.

God has His reasons for where He places you. If you don't get into your dream college, it wasn't meant to be...God has a place elsewhere for you. Don't get down and depressed, and just trust in Him.

God bless you!

Firecube2426 said:

Is this myth true?

-The better you high school GPA. The better you''ll chance you'll get into a big college (like Harvard)

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Yes...
There are few students with "D" averages admitted to Harvard (or most colleges), they do have a very high level of valadictorians among their freshmen class.

Schools with good reputations (earned or not) get applicants with high qualifications so they can be picky, the high level of students tends to help make them a good school (a certain self-fulfilling prophecy there).

Firecube2426 said:

Then the better chance you'll get a good job and make lots and lots of money vs those who go to a punny community college.

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I spent my first two years at a community college.
Don't EVER diss them!!!
While the quality isn't what my new school is, there was LOTS of great stuff going on.
And there's something very AMERICAN about community colleges - they embrace nearly everyone, they give second changes (even third and fourth and fifth chances), they want you to succeed, there's something for everyone. While I hated the lack of any social life, I'm always be a HUGE supporter of community colleges. But, of course, they are usually just two year institutions. Okay for job training but not a college degree (other than that "AA" thing, what the heaven is THAT? I didn't even bother...)


But, I'm not sure there is a strong correlation between WHERE you got your degree and how sucessful you are in your career. And what correlation there is can be explained in part because students that go to Harvard (for example) tend to be better "connected" and highly motivated. Those qualities may well mean as much as the fact that their paper has "Harvard" written on it. But, I'm sure that as a general rule, people getting their MBA from Harvard probably did get a somewhat better education than the one with MBA from Southern Alabama State (no diss to Southern Alabama State) and the prestege probably will help them with their FIRST job (although I doubt much thereafter).

Firecube2426 said:

I feel so worthless because I can't get into the college I want to so therefore I can't get a good job and make lots of money and get married.

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I think if you attend college with the sole focus of getting rich - you'll be frustrated and disappointed. College is MOSTLY about learning. Yeah, that likely will benefit your chosen career - it may even be your ticket into that career, but still it's about learning, growing...

If you want to be rich, marry someone who is rich. It's the easiest and quickest path.
Or develop an operating system better than Windows - there's got to be one!
Or start a pizza business near a college campus.

MY view.


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- Josiah



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The only thing that really is true is the part about the better grades in HS. But everything else is not totally related.

One of my professors was (and admits to it) that he was hired due completely to the fact that he came from a big college back east. So, the name can carry a sort of resume of its own. But isn't always the case.

And also, don't look at it as a way to get rich. There is no imagination in it and is as unique as thinking you're the only smart person on earth. lol

Find something you love, and do it. If you do get rich, good for you. If not, you will still be happy if it's what you love.


Also, just because you can't get in right now doesn't mean the door to your future has closed. There are hundreds of excellent colleges out there. Also, if you do well at another college you may be able to transfer. One thing that college has tought me is that no answers are truely final.

Firecube2426 said:

Is this myth true?

-The better you high school GPA

-The better you''ll chance you'll get into a big college (like Harvard)

-Then the better chance you'll get a good job and make lots and lots of money vs those who go to a punny community college.



I feel so worthless because I can't get into the college I want to so therefore I can't get a good job and make lots of money and get married.

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If you get good marks in high school, then yes do certainly do have a better chance of getting into university in the first place, and a better chance of getting into a more prestigious university. However, going to a prestigious university isn't a guarantee that you'll get a wonderful job and become wealthy. And not going to university at all isn't a guarantee that you'll have a horrible job and be poor. Furthermore, being wealthy doesn't guarantee that you'll get married and being poor doesn't guarantee that you'll remain single.

If you do go to university or college, it is important to choose a school that is at the very least is able to issue accreditted diplomas or degrees. In other words, don't fall for the spam emails offering degrees from 'prestigious non-accreditted universities'. But you don't have to go to the most expensive and well-known universities to get a good solid education and a degree or diploma that employers will recognize. For many good jobs, you don't need to go to university at all, but instead would be better off taking a course from a technical school. And for some jobs, community college will indeed be good enough to get you started, and extra training will happen on the job.

Regardless of what kind of post-secondary training you get, you do have a chance of getting a fulfilling job with a salary that will easily support a family. The key is to choose something that matches your interests and abilities. A decent salary is an important consideration, but it shouldn't be the only one.

GPA has some bearing on college entrance, no doubt, but it is also true that admissions officers look at extracurricular activities, work experience, and test scores (such as the ACT and SAT).

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GPA has some bearing on college entrance, no doubt, but it is also true that admissions officers look at extracurricular activities, work experience, and test scores (such as the ACT and SAT).

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Of course, that depends on where you decide to go to university. For example, in Canada there are no ACTs or SATs. University entrance here is generally based only on high school marks in certain high school classes that the university considers prerequisites.

There is a college/university for virtually anyone at any academic acheivement level. However, it pays to work hard to get into a good school. In my opinion, it pis worth it to strive to go to a big/well-known university because of the simple fact that these schools tend to have renowned reputations. Also, larger schools tend to have higher academic expectations and harder classes, and future employers will know that and look highly upon that, knowing that you worked hard.

HOWEVER, that's not to say that there's ANYTHING wrong with attending small universities, community colleges, techs, etc. In the end, it all boils down to how hard you work, and how motivated you are in life.

I'm sorry to read abour your misfortune. And I won't go on to say that this was God's will, or this happened for a reason.

Who knows.

But your last comment just made me laugh.

I feel so worthless because I can't get into the college I want to so therefore I can't get a good job and make lots of money and get married.

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I'm sorry. That is sooooooo funny to me, because thats what everyone is expected from their parents and this society to do. Who says your fate is to be a boring upper middle class working stiff (not that thats a bad thing. we need people like that to keep the economy working)? And why would you want to pursue it?

You are simplifying life waaaay too much.

You remind me of myself after I got rejected from the best state university in my, well, state.

It seems all too logical :: 5.0GPA and 1600 will probably get accepted any where. Maybe.

And if they get into a good college, they get 'good' education, and therefore are more skilled or whatever, and therefore get more money and 'succed' in life.

Goodness gracious, life isn't that simple.

And whats up about getting married? If the woman you marry only marries you because you are a nice, middle class guy with a future, then have fun getting a divorce sometime later.

Getting married isn't directly related to your performance in education, though you can't start a family without money

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I felt that way as well, so I worked my butt off in community college, got my AA in one year with a 3.999999999999999999999999999 GPA, and got into a state college (granted my state requires state colleges to admitt 2 year transfer students.

Dude, life isn't as simple as you boiled it down too. Its like you boiled off all the water of a huge pot of soup and are left with just burnt and dry pieces of meat.

Sure, if you want to make that your reality and fate, go ahead, but its up to you.

Perhaps the question on your mind is whether you are even capable of getting a good job or not, based upon your recent 'failures'.

Life just isnt as simple as a GPA. Actually.... it is, on an admissions basis. Thats all they can judge you by.

But life isnt just about getting a good job, getting a nice trophy wife, getting some kids, sending them off to college, and then retiring, and then dying.

Theres alot more inbetween each phase. Life isn't just those few steps.

So relax abit. The only difference between community college and a state college or Harvard is they perhaps ask more 'plug and chug' equations, and perhaps ask questions that don't require an absolutely huge amount of logic (like solving a physics problem by 'realizing' the 'trick'.... that is the educational definition of logic).

Other than that, its the same material. The laws of physics dont change from college to college. Its up to you whether or not you want to get real deep into any subject, though it may be presented in an easier formatt, at a community college.

In reality, at any college all you will do is... duh, work. in other words, you will be required to memorize tons of material. That is education. The logic part comes into play when you try to apply your knowledge, however you can make an ENORMOUS amount of money by just knowing alot.

In other words, by spitting out things that were already written on a piece of paper.

Sure, you may not create new things for students in the future to memorize, but your goal of getting a good job, etc., will be complete.

Just become an emotionless machine that creates nothing and memorizes everything. I guarentee you you will get a 4.0GPA in every single science/math class on the face of the earth.

Life is simple, but not as deathly simple as you have made it out to be.

LOL its so funny how similar your thoughts are. I 'extrapolated' those myths as well, and they make sense on a superficial level. But go abit deeper down.

Shyguyelite said:

Just become an emotionless machine that creates nothing and memorizes everything. I guarentee you you will get a 4.0GPA in every single science/math class on the face of the earth.

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Not quite. In high school and the first part of university, you do start out by memorizing information because you need to know the basics. But once you get beyond the introductory science courses in the first year or so of university, you are actually expected to have original thoughts and go beyond just memorizing information. If you take science classes in grad school, you will be expected to apply what you have learned to solve problems that come up and make new discoveries. Labs no longer consist of following a 'recipe' but become an opportunity to create your own 'recipe' and really experiment. If all you can do is create nothing and memorize everything, you will fail upper level science classes. And while I haven't taken any really advanced math classes, I suspect that the same would go for them.

Dang bro. Which college you going too?

I got into my College with a 3.2 and like 1010 on my SATs HOORAY FOR ME!

Yes, your high school GPA definitely matters. Not just for getting in, but for scholarship money too. So many of my have been good enough to get in, but not good enough for them to pay you to come. So they couldn't, and they had to settle for something less.

And also Harvard & the Ivy League is not necessary. At least in my opinion. Go for the strength of the program that you want to enter. i.e. I'm at University of Pittsburgh because they have a really excellent nursing program. I know that's what I want and I am loving it here! I might have been able to go Ivy League, but none of them have nursing programs. They probably all are pre-med. And who needs doctors?

As to making lots of money, I'll let you know in about four years.

it helps to have done well in hs but that shouldn't stop you once you get to college


It is a glorious time to excede all previous thoughts on do well in college

Grades + Extracurricular Activities + SAT/ACTs + Possible Essays

If you get good grades, but aren't involved at all at your school, you probably won't get into a "great" school. Most universities are looking for students who will be able to add to the community.
Some schools (ie Cal States) look ONLY at grades, but they also have over 25,000 undergrads. Blech. Not to say that there's anything wrong with state schools! There is also nothing wrong with community colleges. It's definitely more cost efficient, and it's not any "easier".
Some schools are a bit more competitive, so you would need better grades and more involvement combined, they'll look at essays more, etc.
My best advice: Just do your best in classes, be involved, don't stress, and put it in God's hands, esp after you send in your apps.

Another thing people haven't really mentioned is relationship. GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE AT THE COLLEGE! I was rejected from my flight technology major due to poor SAT, ACT, and GPA's! haha. BUT, I spoke with them at least weekly and here I am! Fully accepted in the program and an excellent pilot.

Shyguyelite said:

Dang bro. Which college you going too?

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Just an ordinary public university in Canada I'm working on an M.Sc. degree.

Boss_BlueAngels said:

Another thing people haven't really mentioned is relationship. GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE AT THE COLLEGE! I was rejected from my flight technology major due to poor SAT, ACT, and GPA's! haha. BUT, I spoke with them at least weekly and here I am! Fully accepted in the program and an excellent pilot.

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well that's amazing.

Doesn't just mean relationships with the advisers. But once you get there go out and make friends and lots of them. Lol man I have done that and I have the accountability partners when I need them. God is so good. I've noticed that god will make us grow when he puts us in uncomfortable situations or out of our norm.

learn how to network. you can get A LONG way with networking no matter what school you go to. there are plenty of ways to make cash even if you are not at the "top" in your field. sometimes just being in the right place at the right time gets you everything. look at harriet miers for example, normally she would NOT be a supreme court nominee but by having worked with Bush in the past she got a foothold into a very very difficult to get job.