Disbelief in Church Teachings
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geocajun said:Thanks be to God for Lent!
Now, I have another reason for Lent being my favorite liturgical season.
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Miss Shelby said:I thought it was kinda funny.
It is funny, Michelle.
Charlie is always humorous.
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Well apparently since there is no assurance of salvation according to a few people on OBOB (who don't know their catechism -- CCC 162, 80-82, 1489, 1989) there's no real way of being sure who's going to Heaven or Hell... did God leave us Sacred Tradition and the Church for nothing?Michelina said:
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Batsoune,
Maybe you have misunderstood the other posters. Yes, God did provide us with a way to achieve salvation. However, it is not in the place of human beings to make presumptions about their salvation. We can have faith that we are saved by God's grace, but we have no way of proving it 100%.
Do you get what I'm saying here?
Maybe you have misunderstood the other posters. Yes, God did provide us with a way to achieve salvation. However, it is not in the place of human beings to make presumptions about their salvation. We can have faith that we are saved by God's grace, but we have no way of proving it 100%.
Do you get what I'm saying here?
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Cosmic Charlie
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Oh, what a hard hearted comment from my favorate discourse partner. (And in a thread on my favorite discourse subject, too)geocajun said:
Oh, the pain, the sorrow, the heartbreak. Oh, hey, just get me another Beam and soda, ok ? I have to do something to dull the temptation to post about unity and procreation.
I should have given up smoking.
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nyj,
what happened to the "Catholic" symbol? Your just says "Christian"?
Did you turn into a Protestant?
what happened to the "Catholic" symbol? Your just says "Christian"?
Did you turn into a Protestant?
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RhetorTheo said:
That is false. We are to accept all that the Church teaches whether from the ordinary magisteriuim or dogmas. There is no such thing as rejecting something just because you research it and you disagree.
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Christy4Christ said:
The teachings of the Church and the scriptures are compatible. One does not trump the either; you can not use one to rule out the other. The bible does not have a higher authority to the magisteriuim. The Church has teaching authority for a reason. The bible does not trump that. The magisteriuim has the authority to teach us what the bible says in light of the deposit of faith that has been left to us. We can self interpret but only within the context of Catholic teaching.
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Shelb5 said:
I think you missed what I was saying here, I was saying that the church will NOT teach you wrong. I said IF you notice that what you are interpreting in a teaching does not line up with what the bible says, you should check your interpretation of that teaching.
In other words, one can misinterpret a teaching in the same way one can misinterpret the bible.
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Christy4Christ said:I think you missed what I was saying here, I was saying that the church will NOT teach you wrong. I said IF you notice that what you are interpreting in a teaching does not line up with what the bible says, you should check your interpretation of that teaching.
In other words, one can misinterpret a teaching in the same way one can misinterpret the bible.
Oh, I apologize then. I thought you were saying that, as if finding a way to disagree with the Church.
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Bastoune, Peace be with you.Bastoune said:Well apparently since there is no assurance of salvation according to a few people on OBOB (who don't know their catechism -- CCC 162, 80-82, 1489, 1989) there's no real way of being sure who's going to Heaven or Hell... did God leave us Sacred Tradition and the Church for nothing?
I simply meant that no one has a copy of the "Book of Life" in their home. We preach the Gospel to every creature, but only God knows those that are His. Their is no magic forumla where a man can force God to save him, and only God can decide when someone has rejected Him. I think that there will be some surprises at the judgement, and I try not to restrict God in any way; His ways are much higher than my ways.
We have the Catholic church; it contains the fullness of the truth, and it has the protection of the Holy Spirit. We do not have the church for nothing. It is God's gift to us, to protect the truth. If we follow the Catholic church, then we are following Jesus, because the church has apostolic authority.
I hope you can see that you do not have any enemies in OBOB
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