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postrib

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...YOU said His Kingdom was FULFILLED at the Transfiguration...
Where?

I believe Matthew 16:28 was fulfilled in Matthew 17:1-2, just as Mark 9:1 was fulfilled in Mark 9:2.

Jesus simply said "there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power" (Mark 9:1). Note again that the transfiguration (Matthew 17:1-2; Mark 9:2) was a "vision" (Matthew 17:9) in which some of the Apostles (Mark 9:1-2) "had seen" (Mark 9:9) "the kingdom of God come with power (dunamis)" (Mark 9:1), "for we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power (dunamis) and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount" (2 Peter 1:16-18).

...some standing there would be ALIVE to see "the Son of Man coming in the glory of His Father with the holy angels...
Note that it doesn't say that.
 
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Originally posted by davo
YOU said His Kingdom was FULFILLED at the Transfiguration

Originally posted by postrib
Where?

Your post #28 says this clearly:

Originally posted by postrib
Matthew 16:28 says they will "see the Son of man coming in his kingdom," which was fulfilled at the transfiguration (2 Peter 1:16-18).

So you did say it -and you are clearly wrong -again. And 2Pt 1:16-18 says nothing about the Kingdom being fulfilled at the Transfiguration.

Originally posted by postrib
Jesus simply said "there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power"

Yes, and He simply said along with that -which you keep conveniently ignoring: that angels, rewards [for which ones, who?] and the Fathers glory. You are dead wrong, but persist simply because faulty hermenuetic demands it. Why do you ignore Jesus' plain words -the text, and present your pretext i.e., your excuse of an interpretation :( . Not forgetting that your argument can also be said for the day of Pentecost -HOWEVER, ONLY IF YOU IGNORE, AS YOU DO, WHAT JESUS SAYS IN VERSE 27 -FOR WHICH SO FAR YOU GIVE, OR HAVE NO ANSWER.

Anyone who heard Jesus say "some standing here will not taste death till I come" etc, could be excused for thinking that that meant, obviously, some would possibly be alive when he returned to them as He promised -like, rocket science. :rolleyes:

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...Your post #28 says this clearly:

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Matthew 16:28 says they will "see the Son of man coming in his kingdom," which was fulfilled at the transfiguration (2 Peter 1:16-18)...
Jesus' prophecy that they would "see the Son of man coming in his kingdom" was fulfilled at the transfiguration.

...2Pt 1:16-18 says nothing about the Kingdom being fulfilled at the Transfiguration...
The kingdom was not fulfilled at that time, but the prophecy of their vision of it was.

...YOU IGNORE, AS YOU DO, WHAT JESUS SAYS IN VERSE 27 -FOR WHICH SO FAR YOU GIVE, OR HAVE NO ANSWER...
Please see my previous answer to you in this thread regarding verse 27 in my 3rd post prior to this one. The 2nd coming (Matthew 24:29-31, Revelation 19) has not happened yet.

..."some standing here will not taste death till I come"...
No that no verse says that.
 
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