The end time are not just some days put together but they started when Jesus was takin up in te clouds and they end when he returns in the same manner.
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Originally posted by Auntie_Belle_Um
Thanks Kelier. Yes, preterism doctrines tend to undermine the very things that Jesus taught. Their doctrines also make a liar of the Holy Spirit in our hearts. I will listen to the Holy Spirit in my heart, and not the teachings of a strange doctrine.
Originally posted by Auntie_Belle_Um
Their doctrines also make a liar of the Holy Spirit in our hearts. I will listen to the Holy Spirit in my heart, and not the teachings of a strange doctrine
Originally posted by Back To The Future
Its hard, to understand, when we have been (brainwashed, in my opinion) with the fundemental interpretation of the Bible. How I wish there were a Preterist Bible. (I hear the growns!) I use to never question anything. Just sat in church and believed everything they said. Preterism, at least you have to admit, gets you thinking for yourself.
Originally posted by Auntie_Belle_Um
"That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive" Eph4:14 KJV
"As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming" NASB
Originally posted by armothe
Well, here we go again. Taking verses out of context. What's new.
-A
Originally posted by Auntie_Belle_Um
NOTHING was taken out of context!!!! Why do preterist ALWAYS say that???? Look, if you don't like the scripture I quoted, just say so, but STOP accusing me of stuff that isn't true.
Originally posted by Back To The Future
How I wish there were a Preterist Bible. (I hear the growns!) I use to never question anything. Just sat in church and believed everything they said. Preterism, at least you have to admit, gets you thinking for yourself.
I feel so lucky and blessed to know this truth.
Nancy
After the resurrection, I don't see how our faith could be overthrown, for when Christ comes and all we in Christ are resurrected or "changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye" into immortal bodies (1 Corinthians 15:23, 51-53), our faith in Christ will have become certain knowledge of Christ, "for we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is" (1 John 3:2), "for now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known" (1 Corinthians 13:12)....will it still overthrow the faith of some if, after a proposed future resurrection, someone declares "the resurrection is passed"...
Originally posted by postrib
parousia70:
After the resurrection, I don't see how our faith could be overthrown, for when Christ comes and all we in Christ are resurrected or "changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye" into immortal bodies (1 Corinthians 15:23, 51-53), our faith in Christ will have become certain knowledge of Christ, "for we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is" (1 John 3:2), "for now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known" (1 Corinthians 13:12).
When we are saved, our mortal bodies are not instantly changed into immortal bodies. Paul spoke of the changing of our bodies as something that is yet to happen (1 Corinthians 15:51-53), and he and the other Apostles died before it happened to their bodies....When you were saved, were you not changed in the twinkling of an eye and became immortal?...
We will be like Jesus in that he "shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body" (Philippians 3:21), for "if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you" (Romans 8:11)....What does it mean "we shall be like him"?...
Originally posted by postrib
parousia70:
After the resurrection, I don't see how our faith could be overthrown, for when Christ comes and all we in Christ are resurrected or "changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye" into immortal bodies (1 Corinthians 15:23, 51-53), our faith in Christ will have become certain knowledge of Christ, "for we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is" (1 John 3:2), "for now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known" (1 Corinthians 13:12).
Originally posted by postrib
When we are saved, our mortal bodies are not instantly changed into immortal bodies. Paul spoke of the changing of our bodies as something that is yet to happen (1 Corinthians 15:51-53), and he and the other Apostles died before it happened to their bodies.
We will be like Jesus in that he "shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body" (Philippians 3:21), for "if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you" (Romans 8:11).
"For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?" (1 Corinthians 15:53-55)
The bodies of all believers who have ever died are still in their graves, and we are still dying.
Note again that Paul said Jesus "shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body" (Philippians 3:21), for "if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you" (Romans 8:11), "for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality" (1 Corinthians 15:52-53)....Paul NEVER says our bodies will be changed into immortal bodies...
Originally posted by postrib
"For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?" (1 Corinthians 15:53-55)