Craters caused by flood events?

platzapS said:

Dad, your idea is just so random that I'm laughing. It sounds like something that would make perfect sense in a dream, but then when you wake up and try to explain it to someone else, it sounds stupid. Please don't take this as mocking, I really enjoy your posts!

B.t.w., if you're going on vacation, I hope you have fun. If it's not vacation, I still wish you a safe and (if applicable) productive trip.

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Well, God bless you, thanks. I am secretive on personal details, but it is just work.

random_guy said:

Yeah! Dad has another supporter. I love dad's ideas. Did you know the center of the Earth is cold, contains a diamond, and possibly water?

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To be fair, I asked why we 'know' it must be hot. From the weakness of the replies, I still don't know. I did look for material that would fit the bill down there if it was cooler, that would withstand the presure, but no materials were claimed by me to actually certainly be there. The point was that we really don't know much about it. Don't say I claim it was certain materials.

Douglaangu v2.0 said:

I can.

The flood never happened, so craters could not have been caused by the flood.

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In other words, all things continue as they were, and were always just physical only, 'there are no alps' -there is no spiritual, God, angels, supernatural, etc etc. If I had a nickel for every time that line was preached, without basis of course.

Douglaangu v2.0 said:

"If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands."

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Not if the person looking is blind as a bat. Not if the duck has only flown in and landed on water, and we are talking about what happened a billion years ago. Not if God is real.

TrueCreation said:

Dad's theory is 'cute' at best

We know how to differentiate between impact craters, sink holes, and certain volcanic processes which result in crater-like features (calderas). It is impossible for impact craters to be due to 'ice meteors' like your scenario would indicate. Even enormous balls of ice falling from space would vaporize long before it reached the earths surface as the melting point of water is hundreds of degrees kelvin lower than the material that makes up meteorites and density of water ice is several times lower as well.

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So a comet would present no great threat coming to earth? Also, how big, exactly is "enormous"? Give me a size, and perhaps I can see your size, and raise you a half a moon or so? Lastly, even if some of these could not hit eart, you have not addressed moon, or mars. etc.

Even if these balls of ice could form, they could not generate a velocity sufficient to impact the earth with enough force to create the craters we observe and ejecta (especially those in the form of tektites) we find in radial orientations from the impact site.

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"Tektites are still poorly understood. They are irregularly- and at times intricately-shaped nodules and blobs of a glassy substance. They have no crystal structure, and are therefore similar to obsidian, but are not associated with volcanic processes. Their chemistry is unique and somewhat unexplained.
The leading theory concerning their origin is the "Meteorite Impact Theory". It is postulated that many odd events occur during a meteor's impact because of the tremendous heat and pressure produced. " http://mineral.galleries.com/minerals/mineralo/tektites/tektites.htm
So especially because of these babies? Strange. I see glass being made of sand, wait a minute, do you think..... hmm, who knows. Flood, sand, sounds like we could conjure a mix here?

Dad's theory isn't very good,

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Thank you. Your rebuttal isn't very good. A little scary sounding, and who knows what kind of a follow up I might expect here. But, as is, sorry, it still needs a little work.

and no a 'flood' could not and did not cause these craters. At most, it would have been the inverse.

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Whatever that means. Anyhow, as I say, what about the other planetary craters? I could leave earth for Walt's rocks. Maybe he even was a little off, and a lot of them fell back down?

TrueCreation said:

We know the interior of the earth is hot because of what is understood in volcanism and seismology.

-Chris Grose

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You gotta be kidding? Ha.

f U z ! o N said:

dad....lay off them drugs!

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I don't take drugs, and I welcome input on the crater matter. It well may be that I haven't got it right on this little aspect. Perhaps all may learn a thing or two as well. So far, all I see is that someone has asked good questions, as to whether or not spacebergs could have landed on earth , and impacted post split. Now, if he can provide evidence of how even a very large spaceberg would not be able to make it down to our surface, and impact, then we will have to rule out ice meteors as a cause, on earth of these craters. But what about one, say, the size of rhode island? Also, if there was quartz and iron in it, would this have some effect on it's velocity, or melting etc? Are not comet tails thought to be ice related? Would this mean then, if a comet was ice, (?) that earth need not worry if a very very large comet hit us?

pantsman52 said:

You know, I'm not really sure if this beats Dads theory that the water on mars was flood water blown from earth.

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It's the same idea. The other thread got closed cause some were insulting, or some such.

Kaonashi said:

The Meteor craters were caused by giant meatballs that were thrown by the Giant Spaghetti Monster as he roamed the earth.

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And was is quartz and iron fortified. and heated to perfection? Does this mean, then granny was Italian?

pantsman52 said:

Well hey, in a noodle/sauce merged universe, anything is possible.

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Guess thats where heaven must be?

Valkhorn said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event

This photograph was taken of the damage of a possible comet strike in 1908... TWENTY YEARS LATER




And of course we can't forget Shoemaker-Levy 9 when it hit Jupiter:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter#Cometary_impact

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Lets look at what has gone on here. I suggested maybe spacebergs from flood water were the cause of some craters on mars, moon, etc, and maybe on earth. A point was raised that earth is too well protected for such a thing to hit us. I asked what if it was real big, but still have no reply. Regardless, as I thought about it, it would make sense God would probably not have flood water go off earth, only to have a lot of it return as ice. See, I take input from a science base, as well as from a higher science base!
Just when I get ready to drop it, you come along, I guess not reading or comprehending the thrust of the thread, or whatever, and explain that comets actually can make craters!

" When far from the Sun, the nucleus is very cold and its material is frozen solid within the nucleus. In this state comets are sometimes referred to as a "dirty iceberg" or "dirty snowball," since over half of their material is ice" http://www.solarviews.com/eng/comet.htm

So, we have a lot of ice that has material in it in comets, apparently. If they also were flood water caused, did the material go up with the water, or does it collect it in space on the way, that now is the question. Also, this type of "dirty iceberg" or spaceberg, as I called it indeed could impact earth, as it is not just ice, I guess. Thanks for helping clear this up!!

So, regular, less dirty flood spacebergs, then, leave lots of water, and craters on planets, and the comet, dirtier types may have smacked earth a bit as well? How we doing so far?