Vaccinations for my 1 year old-- irrational fear

Here's some websites ... probably more in favor of delaying or declining vax's, but take each with a grain of salt and a lot of prayer.

http://www.vaccineinfo.net/index.shtml

http://909shot.com/Default.htm

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/mmwr_wk.html (this is a really cool site, part of the CDC that lists all sorts of information about communicable diseases and such ... lots of stuff to weed through but lots of stuff to learn from too)

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/mmwr_wk.html (I think I posted this somewhere else ... it's from a Christian stand-point [have no idea which/what denomination] about not vax'ing)

http://vaers.hhs.gov/ (a website for reporting any vaccine side affects)

http://www.cdc.gov/node.do/id/0900f3ec8000e2f3 (CDC website, specifically pages about vaccines)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1556434235/qid=1123646226/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-9194813-0465635?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 (I haven't bought this yet, though it's on my list of books to buy - called The Vaccine Guide)

http://www.earthyfamily.com/vaccines.htm

http://www.alternative-doctor.com/vaccination/16reasons.html

http://www.vaccines.bizland.com/intro.html

I have found this to be a great help as well. Under the vaccinations links at the left of the webpage, you will find info from a broad spectrum of perspectives. Hope this helps. You are in my prayers.

Listen to your mother's intuition, talk to your pediatrician, & pray. Of course, your ped will probably try to talk you into getting the vaccines, but he/she should listen to & address your concerns.

http://www.cdc.gov/node.do/id/0900f3ec80065bff addresses common concerns.

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/acip-list.htm These are the CDC recommendations for administering specific vaccines--who should or should not get them, and when, how effective they are, what likely side effects there are, and how common adverse reactions are. Each recommendation provides a bibliography for further research. I have found these extremely helpful when researching vaccinations for my kids.

Ask your doctor about the vaccinations - what they are for, why they are needed at this time, etc.

There was no vaccine for Polio for a long time. My grandfather had polio when he was 7 and my husband's aunt also had it. My grandfather woke up one morning as couldn't move, it was quite scary for his family. He had a lot of physical therapy and he eventually recovered. My husband's aunt recovered too but had stunted growth (she's not quite 4 feet) and difficulties with her legs. If they would have had the vaccine things would have been quite different.

I had the whooping cough when I was younger and am so glad that there is now a vaccine for it. I don't want my children to go through that.

Many of the diseases which made childhood quite dangerous are now preventable with vaccines.

I don't think you would be harming anyone in daycare without the vaccines. Although your child would be more open to getting the diseases from other children (who can carry them without contracting them).

I recommend weighing the pros and cons. Have lots of discussion (like this) and then prayerfully make the decision. Best wishes.

I always took the attitude that there is an even greater risk involved in not getting the vaccines. I can't refer you to specific stats to support that but that is what my doctor always told me. As frightening as the bad things that can happen because of vaccines, the things that can happen without them are worse and more likely to happen.

Yitzchak said:

I always took the attitude that there is an even greater risk involved in not getting the vaccines. I can't refer you to specific stats to support that but that is what my doctor always told me. As frightening as the bad things that can happen because of vaccines, the things that can happen without them are worse and more likely to happen.

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You can actually find quite a bit of evidence that says the opposite. There is research that shows the diseases were already decreasing in break-outs before the vaccines were introduced. There is research that shows vaccinated populations are the ones with disease epidemics. There is great research that shows the harm that can be afflicted upon one when vaccinated. There is research that shows the vaccines themselves warrent the same symptoms as the disease itself.

I've gotten both my kids their vaccinations as recommended by our pediatrician. I would not do it any other way.

I would not recommend not getting your child immunized. But I am also concerned about the connection between the outrageously high incidence of autism, and thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative that used to be in the vaccines from around 1989 until fairly recently, when the drug companies started phasing them out (they continue to use in some other vaccinations, such as boosters and flu shots for kids).

What's absolutely sickening is that CDC, along with the drug companies, actively worked to hide the association between the skyrocketing rates of autism, ADD, ADHD (which have now started to slow down a little) and the mercury-based thimerosal.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/7395411

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20030505-123913-6672r

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0616-31.htm

If I were the parent of an autistic children who received thimerosal-laced vaccines during that time-period, I would be very angry and bitter at this revelation.

The link between autism and vaccinations was always tenuous at best, and is largely discredited in the medical community. The reason the guy proposed the link was that the time frame of the onset of autism coincided with when most kids got the injections. All of his colleagues thought he was a kook.

If mercury were really the culprit, why weren't tanners' children subject to it long ago when mercury was used for tanning? Or why don't we see outbreaks of it where there are toxic leaks? Mercury and other toxic things that have made up ingredients of vaccines have been around us and ingested by us and our children for a lot longer than autism has.

My own opinion echoes someone who posted earlier - ultrasounds, or some other recent medical practice or environmental change, are far more likely responsible.

Ruhama said:

The link between autism and vaccinations was always tenuous at best, and is largely discredited in the medical community. The reason the guy proposed the link was that the time frame of the onset of autism coincided with when most kids got the injections. All of his colleagues thought he was a kook.

If mercury were really the culprit, why weren't tanners' children subject to it long ago when mercury was used for tanning? Or why don't we see outbreaks of it where there are toxic leaks? Mercury and other toxic things that have made up ingredients of vaccines have been around us and ingested by us and our children for a lot longer than autism has.

My own opinion echoes someone who posted earlier - ultrasounds, or some other recent medical practice or environmental change, are far more likely responsible.

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"Tanner's children"? During which era of history are you talking about? Look at what happened to Japanese and Asian families who have suffered with mercury poisoning.

Actually, if you read any of the history of the use of thiremosal, it's a fairly recent development that was used by the big pharm as a cheap way of dealing with preservation of vaccine. Once they saw how it was affecting the population, they started to phase it out. Otherwise it would be in wide use today.

I don't doubt that chemically-caused toxins in the environment may contribute, or other causes, but there is such a strong presentation in the numbers of the rate of autism from the late 1980's through to the 1990's SKYROCKETING, and then the tapering down, that one really has to look closely at that relationship between thimerosal and autism.

Did they have autism? The Asians I mean.

Let me reassure you...I have had 2 kids go through their 12 and 15 month vaccinations with nothing but mild reactions.

If you really want you can put off the vaccines for a few months. No one is going to report you. The vaccines will actually probably not be required until you want to put your son into preschool/day care/school/summer camp. However, from what I can tell, the vaccines that provide the most protection for low-risk babies (i.e. protect against diseases that are particularly dangerous to babies) are the Measles, Hib, Prevnar, Tetanus, and Pertussis.

Joy

The other "please respond to my post" thread had good discussion in it, but I'll say my general thoughts here. There's a risk versus benefit ratio that you have to go through with everything. First, take everyone else out of the equation. You can't be responsible for the health of the other kids, you have to worry about yours. Herd immunity is a myth best left to 100 monkeys legends and other bedtime stories. Then, try to determine how effective the vaccine is. Some seem to really work, like tetanus, and others don't seem all that effective. Then weigh the risk of adverse vaccine reaction to the chance of the child getting the disease. Here's where most of us decide that vaccination is not all it's made out to be by the MD's and drug companies. And waiting is always a good idea. You really have a good three and half or four years before you need to worry about school and the child's immunity can grow by leaps and bounds in that time if you let it.

Ruhama said:

Did they have autism? The Asians I mean.

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They had physical and neurological disorders.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0WDP/is_2001_August_27/ai_78570218

It was due to environment dumping of mercury in the water.

Leanna said:

Goodness... please scare me more both ways. He's had all of his shots, 2 months, 4 months, 6 months.... I just feel really nervous for some reason. Anyway I am going to have my husband, who is much more level headed than me, read up on some of these links and tell me what we should do, lol. Right now I am leaning towards doing the vaccinations but asking for extra prayer...

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Don't be scared. The mercury-based thimerosal has been phased out of the multiple high dosage vaccinations for infants and young children. I don't believe in skipping the vaccinations at all. But I believe parents should take an interest in what's going on, in terms of pharmaceuticals.

I'm no Scientologist. But another big example for me, was the outrageous over-prescription of Ritalin for kids with ADD! I volunteered at several elementary schools in the nurses office in the mid-1990's, and I can tell you, there were literally dozens of boys lining up at 12 noon to get their Ritalin, which is essentially what they used to call speed. My child didn't have ADD, and I'm not going to condemn a parent who has gone along with a prescription for their child of Ritalin, because I haven't been there. But gee, with the huge surge of kids with ADD in 1990's, the pharmaceutical companies were sure quick to encourage that kids take these drugs without testing the long-term side effects. Same deal with Accutane, an acne medication that was linked to depression and suicide in teens. Same deal with certain anti-antidepressants that were also connected to suicides and violent outbursts of anger.

On a personal note - I guess I do have an axe to grind. My dad took Phen-fen 10 years ago. Do you remember that drug? Everybody was prescribing it. Well, he lost a ton of weight, but essentially what happened, was that it interfered with his sleep patterns, and led him to become manic-depressive. It practically destroyed our family. Then they took it off the market.

Sorry - this is a rant. I am off my soapbox now.