Human and Dinosaur (Dragon) Co-Existence

Bible Defender · Aug 5, 2005

God created ALL animal KINDS on the same day, including dinosaurs.

[Bible]Genesis 1:24[/bible]
[bible]Job 40:15-24[/bible]
[bible]Deuteronomy 32:33[/bible]
[bible]Job 30:29[/bible]
[bible]Psalm 44:19[/bible]
[bible]Isaiah 13:22[/bible]
[bible]Isaiah 27:1[/bible]
[bible]Isaiah 34:13[/bible]
[bible]Isaiah 35:7[/bible]
[bible]Isaiah 43:20[/bible]
[bible]Isaiah 51:9[/bible]
[bible]Jeremiah 9:11[/bible]
[bible]Jeremiah 10:22[/bible]
[bible]Jeremiah 14:6[/bible]
[bible]Jeremiah 49:33[/bible]
[bible]Jeremiah 51:34[/bible]
[bible]Jeremiah 51:37[/bible]
[bible]Ezekiel 29:3[/bible]
[bible]Micah 1:8[/bible]
[bible]Malachi 1:3[/bible]

There are countless references to dragons from the bible and ancient literature. There are many ancient paintings and carvings that depict dragons/dinosaurs as well. In fact, we can see from the arrangement of bones in the fossil record that all animals were killed in Noah's flood.

Also, check this out.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v21/i1/aborigines.asp

Mistermystery · Aug 5, 2005

A whole list of basically useless biblequotes, and an AIG link. Who knew that was going to happen before I clicked this thread, huh?

Tell me, why is it that we don't find the bones of humans laying together with the bones of these dinos?

Mystman · Aug 5, 2005

The big question is then, why aren't triasic (spelling?) dinosaurs, jurassic dinosaurs, early mammals, etc, all found in the same layer? After all, if they were all killed by the flood, you should expect at least SOME specimens of all these animals in the layer that was made by the flood, no?

Edit: Too slow.

Bible Defender · Aug 5, 2005

Mistermystery said:
A whole list of basically useless biblequotes, and an AIG link. Who knew that was going to happen before I clicked this thread, huh?

Tell me, why is it that we don't find the bones of humans laying together with the bones of these dinos?

Because the scientists interpret the evidence under a confirmation bias. If they found a dino fossil next to a human fossil, they would just sweep it under the rug. I'm sure they've found human and dinosaur bones in the same layers, it just doesn;t make it to published articles.

Bible Defender · Aug 5, 2005

Mystman said:
The big question is then, why aren't triasic (spelling?) dinosaurs, jurassic dinosaurs, early mammals, etc, all found in the same layer? After all, if they were all killed by the flood, you should expect at least SOME specimens of all these animals in the layer that was made by the flood, no?

Edit: Too slow.

There are no actual layers, the geological timescale is pure fabrication. Sure, there may be pockets where certain animals are more prevelant, that's just due to the regions where those creatures lived before the great flood.

Mystman · Aug 5, 2005

Bible Defender said:
Because the scientists interpret the evidence under a confirmation bias. If they found a dino fossil next to a human fossil, they would just sweep it under the rug. I'm sure they've found human and dinosaur bones in the same layers, it just doesn;t make it to published articles.

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Tomk80 · Aug 5, 2005

Bible defender, in stead of starting up a new thread again, why don't you go to your old threads first and discuss them? You might actually learn something.

Tenka · Aug 5, 2005

Nothing in the little book of YEC answers makes sense except in the light of a worldwide conspiracy among Christian, atheist, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu and Buddhist scientists.

MartinM · Aug 5, 2005

Here's a hint; when the only way you can support your completely unsubstantiated wacky belief is to invoke another completely unsubstantiated wacky belief - say, a global conspiracy in the scientific community - you've already lost the argument.

DrunkenWrestler · Aug 5, 2005

There do exist aliens that are making crop circles and mutilating cattle! The government is just hiding it!

Bible Defender · Aug 5, 2005

Tomk80 said:
Bible defender, in stead of starting up a new thread again, why don't you go to your old threads first and discuss them? You might actually learn something.

Hmm, I read through some of the comments in my chimp thread. I probably said a few things that were a bit over the top, so I don't really feel the need to defend them. I still don't think humans are as similar to chimps as they want me to believe, but I may have jumped the gun just a little with that (and possibly this) thread.

MartinM · Aug 5, 2005

Bible Defender said:
Sure, there may be pockets where certain animals are more prevelant, that's just due to the regions where those creatures lived before the great flood.

...what, dinosaurs lived a few hundred metres below ground?

Bible Defender · Aug 5, 2005

I don't think there is a conspiracy, just that scientists are indoctrinated with evolutionist dogma, so they will interpret evidence to fit evolution. It's not necessarily dishonesty, but still probably wrong. Face it, science has made a ton of mistakes.

alancooney · Aug 5, 2005

Geez....

God created ALL animal KINDS on the same day, including dinosaurs.

On the same day? How do you know it is literal? When the bible says "the sun rised", does that mean the sun literally rised, and thus geocentric-universe is true (the entire universe hurtling round earth at many thousands of times the speed of light).

Job 40:15-24 - This could be a whole load of things. Perhaps a wooly Mammouth?

Deuteronomy 32:33 - What translation are you using here? The word is clearlly serpents, not dragons.

Job 30:29 - The word is Jackals, not dragons.

Psalm 44:19 - Again, its jackals

Isaiah 13:22 - And again

Isaiah 27:1 - The word is monster, and its a metaphorical tale anyway.

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And so on, I persume this is a cut and paste job. Try looking up these passages in a regular bible. http://www.biblegateway.com is brilliant.

As for dragons in aborigines cave paintings, have you ever seen any cave paintings? I did an entire art project on them. They are very ambiguous, and you certainly couldn't tell the difference between a kangeroo and a dinasaur. Note, they hadn't developed layers (forground and backround), perspective, texture, or color. As a result, sizes were often distorted. Pictures were also done from memory, so they wern't that accurate.

MartinM · Aug 5, 2005

Bible Defender said:
I don't think there is a conspiracy, just that scientists are indoctrinated with evolutionist dogma, so they will interpret evidence to fit evolution. It's not necessarily dishonesty, but still probably wrong.

You didn't just suggest that scientists interpreted data to fit evolution. You suggested that they suppressed data that does not fit evolution.

Bible Defender · Aug 5, 2005

MartinM said:
...what, dinosaurs lived a few hundred metres below ground?

Consider also that dinosaurs were much larger. Now, imagine violent seas and swirling sediment, the heavier animals and the ones with greater bone density would likely work their way down farther. There are still some smaller animals in with the dinosaurs, yes, but that could be caused from a number of things.

Keep in mind that humans and dinosaurs lived in different regions as well!

Bible Defender · Aug 5, 2005

alancooney said:
Job 40:15-24 - This could be a whole load of things. Perhaps a wooly Mammouth?

Deuteronomy 32:33 - What translation are you using here? The word is clearlly serpents, not dragons.

Job 30:29 - The word is Jackals, not dragons.

Psalm 44:19 - Again, its jackals

Isaiah 13:22 - And again

Isaiah 27:1 - The word is monster, and its a metaphorical tale anyway.

Even if dragons are used in metaphor, people still had knowledge of these enormous beasts.

alancooney · Aug 5, 2005

Yes lets imagine violent seas and swirling sediments. Now lets imagine the chalk cliffs of dover (uk). Now considering the amount of pressure from the water above them, would they survive? Obviously not.

Bible Defender · Aug 5, 2005

alancooney said:
Yes lets imagine violent seas and swirling sediments. Now lets imagine the chalk cliffs of dover (uk). Now considering the amount of pressure from the water above them, would they survive? Obviously not.

True, they probably formed after the flood.

MartinM · Aug 5, 2005

Bible Defender said:
Consider also that dinosaurs were much larger. Now, imagine violent seas and swirling sediment, the heavier animals and the ones with greater bone density would likely work their way down farther. There are still some smaller animals in with the dinosaurs, yes, but that could be caused from a number of things.

That doesn't really help. Fossils simply aren't sorted by their hydrodynamic properties. And even types of pollen are neatly sorted, with no exceptions.

Keep in mind that humans and dinosaurs lived in different regions as well!

That doesn't help either, since in every region where species A and B are found together, their relationship in the geologic column is always the same.

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