**Warning to Parents** Harry Potter: Politically-Correct Paganism

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I have also heard of one parent whose child was seeking out Wicca info on the internet - even saying her religion was Wicca - as a result of the Harry Potter phenomenon. I am sure there are many, many more children like this as the Harry Potter books grow darker and darker and this book grows ever more popular.

We cannot overlook the fact that witchcraft and sorcery are now being promoted to our children as acceptable. In fact, it is even encouraged. Of course, we Christians know these things are totally contrary to what God says in the Bible.

I pray Jesus comes quickly, because the deception is growing so intense and so quickly as to deceive the very elect, IF that were possible...keep watching and testing the spirits...God bless :)
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Harry Potter: Politically-Correct Paganism
By Jan Markell
http://www.worldviewweekend.com/secure/cwnetwork/article.php?ArticleID=139

Chaos reigned in my home town July 16 at midnight. Little kids roamed the streets in ecstasy as they had just purchased the new Harry Potter book, "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince." Most were dressed like witches and wizards. They are addicted, but not to righteousness. And they just want to be like Harry and, if possible, attend Hogwarts' School of Witchcraft. When told it doesn't really exist, they are heartbroken.

Okay, so J.K. Rowlings is the second richest woman in England only preceded by the Queen because she can spin a good fantasy tale. There are "Christian Potter advocates" out there who will tell you that you can find God in Harry Potter. Entire denominations have endorsed him and respected Christian magazines as well. I have only a few paragraphs to persuade you differently so here goes.

Harry Potter is a wizard. Excuse me, but how many times does the Bible warn of us wizards, witches, witchcraft, sorcery, spells, incantations, and more? Aren't Christians to have no fellowship with darkness? (II Cor. 6:14-17) Rowlings says each book is getting darker and darker and she is right. He and his pals actually engage in between 75 and 100 practices forbidden in the Bible. Some are pretty gross, in fact. It's pretty tough to think about anything, "true, honorable, lovely, of good report, etc." as it says in Philippians 4:8 when one is focused on Potter gimmicks. He's almost always involved in occultic-type things including drinking blood and talking to the dead (necromancy). Oh, and Harry's "shed blood" has magical powers. Shouldn't that be a huge red flag?

You may be saying, "But this is a struggle of good vs. evil, so what do you expect?" You're right. It's "good" wizards and sorcerers battling "bad" wizards and sorcerers and in the end who wins--wizards and sorcerers! Christian Potter advocates need to grasp that this is not the way the Kingdom of God works. We want righteousness and Godliness to win, and in the end, it does! Read the last chapter of the Bible. And do you think that J.K. Rowlings, who doesn't understand the Bible any more than I understand the engine of my car or the guts of my computer, actually intended this to have true spiritual overtones?

So the Potter plot may be fantasy/fiction, but the setting and characters promote an occult-based worldview that kids accept as truth in normal life. What's cool in Harry's life is cool in their world, but Harry's world is surrounded and characterized by evil. Standards of behavior are distorted. Good and evil are just how you perceive it (situation ethics). There are no absolutes which is just what our post-modern culture needs. Harry is often rewarded for doing evil such as when he lies and cheats. Aren't there about a dozen red flags by now?

The Potter books and movies cleverly mask the evil concepts by presenting evil in a fantastic and alluring child's world. The biblically illiterate are fooled, and how sad when biblically literate parents are fooled and are just happy that finally their kids are reading.

Since organizations like the Pagan Federation of England state that they are recruiting hundreds of inquiring kids thanks to Potter, shouldn't that be a storm warning? In that hundreds of witchcraft Web sites are linked to Potter Web sites, does that sound an alarm?

Mysticism and love of the supernatural are thriving today even in some churches. Thus, the wonderfully mystical and emotionally awesome experience of Harry Potter fit right in. Today a lot of people crave the supernatural as well as "experiences" and even "signs and wonders." We're just far enough into the last days' apostasy so that it's actually spun out of control. J.K. Rowlings timed things well.

According to Gallup, at least one third of kids under age 18 have read a Harry Potter book or seen a movie. No, it won't lead every kid down the primrose path of witchcraft and Satanism but why should we give the devil an inch when he will want a yard or even a mile? This is a hugely serious matter. In the Bible, witchcraft was so forbidden that those who practiced it were frequently executed.

I have had some so-called "Christian Potter advocates" on my radio program. One told me that Jesus would use Potter as parables for children if He were around today, or would have in His day. I'm sorry, but Harry Potter is a different gospel. Deception and delusion abound here. He is a product of evil being called good (Isaiah 5:20). If Potter products are tools for the Kingdom, I have to ask, which Kingdom? Since author J.K. Rowlings promised to make each episode darker (and has done so), I hardly think she had in mind the Kingdom of God.

(Jan Markell is founder and president of Olive Tree Ministries, Inc. She has authored eight Christian books with the major Christian publishing houses. She has a talk radio program out of Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN heard in other parts of the country as well. For more information, her e-alert sign-up, or free, print newsletter, visit her Web site, www.olivetreeviews.org.)
 

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So I looked at this thread and was waiting for someone else to say it, but since they won't, I will. I don't mind criticism in this area. :cool: I will tell you my story about Harry Potter.

When the fourth book came out the Christian community was in an uproar about witchcraft and the non Christian community was all happy about their kids reading. I am the type of person who likes to know her stuff, so before I could form an opinion on this one I felt I needed to do some research. So I went to the local bookstore and sat down with a copy of the first book. What I found was not anything like REAL witchcraft, but a fiction story. It was brilliantly written and very creative. Jelly beans in every flavor including earwax? Funny. So I decided that it was "okay" and told my husband what I thought. He was highly doubtful, being a pastoral student at the time, but took my challenge to read at least the first chapter before condemning it. He read it, he agreed with me-- not evil.

My stepmom (a VERY strict Christian) refused to let my sister (13 years old) to read Harry Potter. I said, okay, you should at least know what you are condemning. I lent her the book, she read it and decided it was okay. My sister's friend who is not allowed to read Harry Potter, but she is allowed to read Artemis Fowl and A Great and Terrible Beauty, which in MY opinion (yes I read them both and Terrible Beauty made my spirit wave a red flag-- again, know what your kids are reading) are far more witchcraft oriented or teaching bad values (the main character of Artemis isn't exactly a hero) than Harry Potter. My sister's friend's mother has never read any of her child's books, only takes the popular opinion. And let's face it, when something becomes popular in the world the Christian community rushes to condemn it. I remember hearing the church condemn Titanic in 1997 because it was so popular, but the FAR worse PG-13 movies that came out in the years afterward I heard nothing about.

To me Harry Potter is as demonic as The Chronicles of Narnia or The Lord of the Rings. Its the same genre. If you teach your kids the truth, fiction stories will not confuse them. The trouble these days is that parents are not parenting, thus the unparented take on an obsession such as Harry Potter and try to find something like it in real life. There is nothing like it, its a story, and if the OP had read it he would not have compared it to Wiccanism. Wiccanism isn't even close.

I know as an older child Harry Potter would not have confused me. My dad read The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings to me when I was 8 and 9. I was already used to magic that didn't exist. Someday I will read Harry Potter to my child, but only after he is old enough to understand TRUTH and FICTION.
 
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I read the latest Harry Potter Book, I'm in the process of reading the first one together with my 7 year old nephew. He knows that these books just like stuff on TV is just make believe, stories people make up for fun but it's not real.

I read the Hobbit when I was in fifth grade so I was 10 or 11 and I didn't think it was real because I know there is no such thing as magic or elves or Hobbits who eat ten meals a day.

Children arn't stupid by 7 or so they can tell the difference between fake and real. It's also up to the parents and family to teach them from a young age what is right and what isn't.
 
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Harry Potter cannot be compared to Lord of the Rings or any other book though. Harry Potter is a wizard; a magician. We have "good magic" and "bad magic" throughout the book. But it's all magic! That's the point. It gives people the message that we can mix good and evil, and that "good magic" is perfectly acceptable. Harry is a "good wizard," which is a misnomer. He has become the hero to millions of kids around the globe. But the Bible says ALL wizardry, magic, and sorcery is NOT to be practiced among His people!!

It seems this book has really deceived the masses. In the book, "muggles" are non-magical people who are seen as narrow, mean, and ignorant. Thus, we have already set up the perfect conditions for training the children that the occult is acceptable, and anyone who thinks otherwise is just plain ignorant. You seriously don't see that children are already believing this? Most parents are unaware of this because their children don't communicate it per se. It is internalized in the very formative years and carried on throughout life.

The Bible condemns us having anything to do with witchcraft, magic, sorcery, and the like. So why should we support a book that is doing just that? It isn't a book of spells, no...but nonetheless it is teaching our Christian children that it's okay to mix good and evil, and that dabbling in the occult is perfectly acceptable.

Is THIS the message we want to teach our children? Or do we want them to know that ALL magic and wizardry is wrong because God says it is?
 
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When did Chirstianity become about ignoring God given commen sense?

Children are going to see things everyday that is wrong or you don't agree with. Who better to teach them from right or wrong, real or fake than their parents. Hiding them from all the bad things will just make them ignorant and more people who want bad for them will more easily be able to trick them into it.

Educating your children is the way to protecting them from the bad things in the world, not hiding from it.

Why is it I've never seen you on the parenting board until you have this post?
 
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You know, when the first HP book came out, I was teaching elementary school, loved reading fiction aimed at juveniles, and couldn't put the book down when I got ahold of it. The same was true of the next 4 books. My husband and I saw the movie and got it on DVD. I was excited one night when one of the pastors at the church we went to said he and his wife drove to 5 different stores to buy a copy of the latest book (this was 2 years ago). I felt by them buying the book, they were endorsing it. Then, God hit us (my husband and I) over the head about what we allowed to influence us and get into our minds. We got rid of the HP books when we moved. I haven't picked up a copy of the newest one and have no desire to read it. I agree with Sacklunch in that there is no such thing as "good magic" and a "good wizard". If I teach our sons that God despises magic, wizards, the occult, but then read them and endorse the HP books as a good read, they will get mixed messages. There is so much fantastic literature out there for children of all ages (and adults too) that we don't need to loosen our tightly held beliefs in God's word, imo, to endorse HP. For me, it's cutting a little too close to the proverbial edge ... how close can you get to disobeying before you actually disobey. We've been learning with our sons (and especially our 4 year old who is very verbal and a very good thinker) that just because you can "rationalize" something away doesn't mean it doesn't make an impression upon them. They watch and internalize every inconsistency in our lives ... telling them that paganism and the occult are bad, and yet encouraging things like HP is sending mixed messages, big time.
 
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Linnis said:
When did Chirstianity become about ignoring God given commen sense?

Children are going to see things everyday that is wrong or you don't agree with. Who better to teach them from right or wrong, real or fake than their parents. Hiding them from all the bad things will just make them ignorant and more people who want bad for them will more easily be able to trick them into it.

Educating your children is the way to protecting them from the bad things in the world, not hiding from it.

Why is it I've never seen you on the parenting board until you have this post?
So we should accept evil and that's okay? We should allow our children to accept evil and that's okay, because they see it all the time anyway? We should not protect our children from evil?

Christianity is not simply about common sense. It's about reading the Bible and living by God's Word. It is how we Christians are supposed to live. And if God's Word tells us that witchcraft, sorcery, and magic are evil and we need to avoid it at all costs, why shouldn't we take that seriously?

Soon something worse will overtake Harry Potter. It always does. But so many Christians are like frogs in boiling water. It's an overused analogy, I know, but true. The water heats up so slowly, the frog doesn't know what's going on until it's too late to jump out. It is much the same with Christians today. We are so quick to accept, but have no idea that one thing leads to another, and then one day we have all out apostasy. At what point do we draw the line and say ENOUGH is ENOUGH? At what point do we call a spade a spade? I believe that time is NOW.
 
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If you actually read the books, which I doubt you have, Harry can't beat them with magic, he can only beat them with Love. Love is stronger than all things...isn't that a good thing?

As for LOTRs it's as much about good and bad magic as Harry Potter.


I don't think you even want to hear reason or the other side of the coin so I'm done with this topic. Living in fear of every little thing must be a horrable way to live though, but to each his own.
 
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Ehhhh.... what is the problem with wizards if you are ok with Tolkien and Lewis? Gandalf isn't just a "nice guy".

To elaborate, although I should probably just leave it at the above, he is an ideal role model of someone who uses his powers to do good. Think of what values he imparts and what children wanting to emanate him would be drawn to. His ability to shoot fire? or his gentleness, morality and inner strength?

You should reserve your criticism of characters to the things that will make a difference in a child's HEART and character, not whether they can do pyrotechnics, and especially since it's all fake. Every child - EVERY child, not just those who read fantasy - wants to have super powers, because they have imagination. You might as well say Superman is satanic because he can fly, and we all know that you can only levitate through the demonic, right? Or star trek is evil because of something similar.

If you are going to rail against Harry Potter, you should be prepared to throw out MOST of the traditional fantasy stories out there. If your kids are bored and unenriched, well that is your choice.
 
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On the other hand, that all being said. I will admit that for some children, they DON'T know the difference, and then for those you should be a little more protective. On the whole though, it's your job as a parent to teach them the difference, as that is far more useful to them in the world than simply shielding them.
 
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I have never read Harry Potter, so I really don't know anything about the books. However, I feel like there is so much rich character building literature out there without getting into fantasy that we have just steered our kids away from that sort of book. Why fill their minds with completely absurd thoughts? I dislike fairy tales for the same reason.
Just my take on the whole subject. :)
 
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JRR TOLKIEN was a Christian!
alot of LOTR can be compared to Christianity and the world as it is today. There is a book out called "the gospel according to JRR Tolkien" I havent read it but i am going to buy it and check it out.

As for Harry Potter is disgusts me that it was the fastest selling, most anticipated book. I have seen the movies and i can really understand why some kids want to lean wicca and stuff like that. I get eeery feelings when i watch the movies and it really opens doors to people.

I have worked in a mental health ward and what concerns me was one patient was having hallucinations abotu witches and demons. I would pray for him then he would return to normal. The staff there had no idea i was praying for him and were baffled by the irregularity of his "hallucinations"

My point with that was, he was a harry potter reader, among other things and i just feel strongly that this book could be taken seriously by these kids and it opens doors for satan to take hold of some part of their life. The bible clearly states that we shuold stay away from ALL satanic activities (witchcraft, sorcery, dealing with evil spirits). When people get involved in this it is jsut shocking.

1. they are joining the direct forces against God
2. They become a servant for the king of teh dead and its just soooo sad.

Okay im passioate about this but i have seen the effects taht just having an "animalia" book in the house has on a kid, let alone them reading this stuff. (in case you dont know animalia books ahve occult symbols, demons and everything else drawn into each page...LOOK HARD)

this stuff is turning kids away from God and its just one of Satans tools to try and take over us. *sigh* will you let satan corrupt your children and the generations to come?
 
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simi said:
JRR TOLKIEN was a Christian!
alot of LOTR can be compared to Christianity and the world as it is today. There is a book out called "the gospel according to JRR Tolkien" I havent read it but i am going to buy it and check it out.

As for Harry Potter is disgusts me that it was the fastest selling, most anticipated book. I have seen the movies and i can really understand why some kids want to lean wicca and stuff like that. I get eeery feelings when i watch the movies and it really opens doors to people.

I have worked in a mental health ward and what concerns me was one patient was having hallucinations abotu witches and demons. I would pray for him then he would return to normal. The staff there had no idea i was praying for him and were baffled by the irregularity of his "hallucinations"

My point with that was, he was a harry potter reader, among other things and i just feel strongly that this book could be taken seriously by these kids and it opens doors for satan to take hold of some part of their life. The bible clearly states that we shuold stay away from ALL satanic activities (witchcraft, sorcery, dealing with evil spirits). When people get involved in this it is jsut shocking.

1. they are joining the direct forces against God
2. They become a servant for the king of teh dead and its just soooo sad.

Okay im passioate about this but i have seen the effects taht just having an "animalia" book in the house has on a kid, let alone them reading this stuff. (in case you dont know animalia books ahve occult symbols, demons and everything else drawn into each page...LOOK HARD)

this stuff is turning kids away from God and its just one of Satans tools to try and take over us. *sigh* will you let satan corrupt your children and the generations to come?
Thank you for that post, simi!
:amen: :clap:
 
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I have many friends including pastors and pastor's wives who think otherwise. I just want to point out there are a lot of intelligent Bible fearing Christians who are okay with Harry Potter and have come to different conclusions. It isn't a matter thats clear black or white-- it gray. So you need to follow your own inclinations. I don't care to argue, I feel at peace about my decision on the books.

But maybe some if you should consider Romans 14. "One man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands of falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind...." on and on, its a real good chapter complete with "Each of us will give an account of himself to God, therefore let us stop passing judgement on one another." And also, "...whatever you believe about thse things keep between yourself and God." with many examples of things people were disagreeing on what was holy or not holy, what was allowed or not allowed.

I can tell you the truth that while my husband was in seminary we did not keep these books on the living room bookshelf. If someone asked, we would be honest, but we did not parade what I believe to be our freedom in front of others who may have stumbled at the idea of these books.

Figure out what you believe and live it, that's what I've done.

I see no harm in Harry Potter for myself and my family.
 
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God is pretty clear about any kind of magic -- it's an "abomination." When God calls something an abomination, it's something that we want to avoid.

My pastor, a man who I respect and whose life (and 8 children) depict godliness and walking in God's light, spoke of an incident that occured with a child of a couple that came into his office. Their child was having horrible nightmares, night terrors that started very suddenly. It turns out the child was "playing" with some Harry Potter stuff, and was somehow instructed to "draw a magic circle" and do an incantation. This IS witchcraft. This was considered "harmless fun" (kind of like ouija boards were, and seances when I was child).

This child was being terrorized. As soon as she told her parents what had happened, they and some Christian friends prayed over her and her room and cast the demons out. From then on the nightmares stopped.

I can't tell you how real the demonic is, and why God cautions us so strongly against it. Don't you know that satan can appear as an angel of light? The Bible warns us not to be ignorant of his schemes.

If there's even an inkling of a chance that these books are opening up our precious children to demonic influences and leading them from the path of righteousness, why would we ever expose them to such? Better safe than sorry! And there are a lot of other good books out there.

I worked at a book store, and you would be SO surprized to see how many kids will walk through there with parents buying them books on how to cast spells, just outright demonic stuff. It's alarming and frightening.

Just because a pastor says something is all right doesn't mean that it is. We must be like the Bereans and search the Scriptures ourselves. I just wouldn't take a chance like this -- is it worth it?
 
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(Linnis and Leanna, I am so sorry I cannot give you more reputation at the moment, but great posts anyway!)

Now, Sacklunch ...

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I have also heard of one parent whose child was seeking out Wicca info on the internet - even saying her religion was Wicca - as a result of the Harry Potter phenomenon. I am sure there are many, many more children like this as the Harry Potter books grow darker and darker and this book grows ever more popular.

Okay, you know this tale going around about Harry Potter turning kids onto witchcraft? Yes, there was a newspaper article about it happening, and (some) Christians cite this article endlessly, embellish and preach it as truth. However this article is from The Onion. You know, the satirical webzine? The Onion was poking fun at the HP paranoia in some church circles by making up a story about hordes of kids saying "I'm now sooo into witchcraft!" but its somehow since been accepted as fact ^_^ So I hate to poo-poo your first source, but there you go.

We cannot overlook the fact that witchcraft and sorcery are now being promoted to our children as acceptable. In fact, it is even encouraged. Of course, we Christians know these things are totally contrary to what God says in the Bible.

Sure, but it is not only "now" that witches and wizards have been used in children's stories. That's been going on in fairytales and even high literature (others have already cited LOTR) for centuries. It is nothing new. And strangely enough, many kids over the last few centuries have grown up on a diet of wide reading, including all sorts of characters from pixies to sorcerers to talking mice, and many of those kids have become well-balanced God fearing people. So it is nothing new. Get over it.

Now for this article where the author couldn't even get the HP author's name right. :sigh:

Harry Potter: Politically-Correct Paganism
By Jan Markell
http://www.worldviewweekend.com/secure/cwnetwork/article.php?ArticleID=139

Chaos reigned in my home town July 16 at midnight. Little kids roamed the streets in ecstasy as they had just purchased the new Harry Potter book, "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince." Most were dressed like witches and wizards. They are addicted, but not to righteousness. And they just want to be like Harry and, if possible, attend Hogwarts' School of Witchcraft. When told it doesn't really exist, they are heartbroken.

They are not addicted. These kids were just having fun. They, and many adults around the world, got caught up in the party spirit that the publishers, by releasing the book at midnight, had hoped to create. When there has been two years since the last book, what is sending them out could hardly be called an addiction. It is just a bit of a party. Remember the release of Star Wars, anyone? A lot of people who weren't addicts turned up in costume and with music just to have a bit of fun. Interesting that the people who always shake their heads at fun are the ones who never have any.

He and his pals actually engage in between 75 and 100 practices forbidden in the Bible. Some are pretty gross, in fact. It's pretty tough to think about anything, "true, honorable, lovely, of good report, etc." as it says in Philippians 4:8 when one is focused on Potter gimmicks. He's almost always involved in occultic-type things including drinking blood and talking to the dead (necromancy). Oh, and Harry's "shed blood" has magical powers. Shouldn't that be a huge red flag?

Okay, so this catalog of 75 to 100 practices? Drinking blood? Uh, Harry and "his pals" (in other words the good ones that readers are supposed to identify with) never do that. In fact, they shudder with disgust when their mortal, evil enemy slays an innocent creature to drink its blood. Has this woman (or you, for that matter), actually read what you're condemning? Because by getting this stuff so blatantly wrong you've actually got more than a little egg on your face.

Also, the only (school) rules Harry breaks in the book include curfew rules (and if you've ever been in a boarding school situation, that is pretty universal). He once lied to a teacher who later confessed to trying to get an evil creature to destroy his soul ... I think that one can slide, don't you?

You may be saying, "But this is a struggle of good vs. evil, so what do you expect?" You're right. It's "good" wizards and sorcerers battling "bad" wizards and sorcerers and in the end who wins--wizards and sorcerers!

Uh, so lets do more than a surface reading. Ever heard of a deeper message buried in a book? The wizards/characters are just the tools she uses. The story is about a good/evil struggle, and as Linnis said, its biggest message is about the power of love. Love, love, love - JK Rowling emphasises again and again ad nauseum throughout the books. If you miss that, then I'd suggest you go back a do more than just read through looking for the blood-drinking scenes. Since when did a story about morals and love ever hurt our kids? I think, as others have said, as long as this story is shared with kids within proper boundaries (ie: that it is a fantasy) I'd let them enjoy it and learn from it.

So the Potter plot may be fantasy/fiction, but the setting and characters promote an occult-based worldview that kids accept as truth in normal life. What's cool in Harry's life is cool in their world, but Harry's world is surrounded and characterized by evil.

Um, that is exactly our world. Aren't you trying to tell us that we're drowning under this evil? Evil is everywhere, but we can overcome it through the power of Christ's love. Harry Potter is surrounded by evil, but he is always told that if he keeps the love in his heart than good will prevail. I don't see how that is distorting the truth of our world. If anything, it is echoing it.

Since organizations like the Pagan Federation of England state that they are recruiting hundreds of inquiring kids thanks to Potter, shouldn't that be a storm warning? In that hundreds of witchcraft Web sites are linked to Potter Web sites, does that sound an alarm?

Ask any wiccan in the "All members" section of this forum if they think Harry Potter in any way resembles their religion, and they'll laugh at you. They are poles apart.

Mysticism and love of the supernatural are thriving today even in some churches. Thus, the wonderfully mystical and emotionally awesome experience of Harry Potter fit right in. Today a lot of people crave the supernatural as well as "experiences" and even "signs and wonders."

Um, so there is nothing mystical about our God? The divine mystery of His love for us? What about the experience of the Lord's supper on communion Sunday? Is that not a divine, mystical experience that brings us closer to the Lord? (I respect that Christians hold differing views here).

In the Bible, witchcraft was so forbidden that those who practiced it were frequently executed.

Yeah, Christians have done a lot of judgemental, unloving things throughout history. Check out the crusades. This is just another example.

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Others have already said it so well, so I'll cut short this overly long post. But in essence, within proper boundaries I don't see that these books are worth becoming hysterical over.
 
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Based on the responses above, I can clearly see why Jesus asked if He will find faith on the earth at His Return.

I object strongly to this part of your second post. You are insinuating that people who defend the HP books against literary censorship are lacking in faith! I don't believe it is your place at all to judge other people's faith. Only the Spirit can she what is in the heart.
 
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LOTR has Gandolf he is a good wizard, so they both have wizardry, good and bad. I haven't read the latest harry potter book, but I do not think it is likely to be a problem. I read with my kids (k so they are a bit young for harry potter) and I find the values endorsed in many childrens books to be far worse than the idea of some FAKE stuff.

IE it is ok for a child to insult another in anger, it is ok for a person to sell their child for some gold (ok so that is in the bible, but I don't endorse it!) It is ok for a person to lie (so long as it has a good cause, or not book depending) among other things childrens books are full of bad behavior and a perfect time for mom (or dad) to step in and remind children of our values and of what we could have done to help. I have one book full of opposites, my DD tells me the boy screaming (for noisy ops. of quiet) is mad, and she was obssessed with finding a cure for the poor kid! I much prefer a kid who sees the bad example (yelling is not a good way to get what you need) and is willing to help/offer suggestions on how to ask nicely rather than keep all bad away form them.
 
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