Any bodybuilders here?
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I am not the traditional amateur body builder, thoght I'd like to start. But I do build muscle - in ballet classes.
If you don't believe me, my bottom hurts, as I sit here and write, from doing an hour and a half of bottom squeezing - that is how you stand in ballet. Bottom squeezed and legs turned out, belly tucked in and sholders pulled down. I've only described to you "standing in ballet" I haven't even started to tell you about "grande battements" and "devlopees" and arabesques.
I wish I knew the technical names for the muscles I build, and I wish there was a weight lifting system for excercising these muscles. I guess you could say that when I lift my leg in the air, I'm lifting weight. But I'm supposing that with traditional weight lifting, I'd be able to lift my leg higher...and hold it there...
If you don't believe me, my bottom hurts, as I sit here and write, from doing an hour and a half of bottom squeezing - that is how you stand in ballet. Bottom squeezed and legs turned out, belly tucked in and sholders pulled down. I've only described to you "standing in ballet" I haven't even started to tell you about "grande battements" and "devlopees" and arabesques.
I wish I knew the technical names for the muscles I build, and I wish there was a weight lifting system for excercising these muscles. I guess you could say that when I lift my leg in the air, I'm lifting weight. But I'm supposing that with traditional weight lifting, I'd be able to lift my leg higher...and hold it there...
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I think there is a book about the Ballet workout. I don't know the exact title, but I remember the subject. I might give you some information about the muscle groups you are working in class.
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For example, what do you call the muscle that goes from the inner side of the knee to the outer side of the hip? The muscle that causes the legs to rotate out-wards
Or the muscle in charge of lifting a leg to the side, knees pointing out? It's a muscle in such rare use, and after a few leg lifts it is always sore.
Or the muscle in charge of lifting a leg to the side, knees pointing out? It's a muscle in such rare use, and after a few leg lifts it is always sore.
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I looked on amazon for a book on ballet body building... found nice books, but notheing on ballet bodybuilding.
Actually somebody built a machine for building strength with weights.
Actually somebody built a machine for building strength with weights.
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Here's a question to ponder. As Christians and natural bodybuilders, we will not and should not use any kind of illegal performance enhancing substances to increase muscle mass, burn fat etc. We do, after all, answer to a higher authority. Arnold Schwarzennegar, one of the best, if the the most well known bodybuilders now takes a stance against steroids and has said so publicly. That is great! However, is he really against them? He promotes the Arnold Classic and every one on that stage is a steroid user. So isn't he still condoning the use of steroids and its abuse by allowing those men and women on stage?
As christian bodybuilders and parents we have to make it known that this is not an acceptable way to build the body. It doesn't bring any honor to God and as far as our children are concerned, we definitely do not want them to think that this is acceptable! Any thoughts on all of this? Sorry if it seems like a soapbox sermon!
God bless!
Bobby & Val
Mark 10:27
As christian bodybuilders and parents we have to make it known that this is not an acceptable way to build the body. It doesn't bring any honor to God and as far as our children are concerned, we definitely do not want them to think that this is acceptable! Any thoughts on all of this? Sorry if it seems like a soapbox sermon!
God bless!
Bobby & Val
Mark 10:27
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Arnold may publicly be saying now that he's against steroid use, but don't let that fool ya, he began juicing when he was a teenager to make his mark in the bodybuilding world.
As Christians, we are to treat our bodies as the temple for the Holy Spirit, with all the possible side effect from the use of steroids, I think it would be against Gods will for Christians to use them.
As Christians, we are to treat our bodies as the temple for the Holy Spirit, with all the possible side effect from the use of steroids, I think it would be against Gods will for Christians to use them.
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Bear said:
You got that right! He admitted he did them and now they are so very bad for you to use, yet he still condones the usage by allowing those competitors to step on stage. And he was on the President's coucil for fitness?
I definitely agree...in no way shape or form would God condone the usage of these drugs!
Boby & Val
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It only I could get motivated again, lol. Everytime I get back into it, I loose a TON of strength. It comes back pretty fast though.Key Of David
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While I'm against pumping bovine hormones into our bodies just to look freaky.....I do wonder is it not ok to be taking certain legal substances that raise the levels of what hormones you have. After all we can go to the doctor and get this prescribed for other goals....why not a little more muscle mass....would you not consider these currently legal "prohormones" natural?
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Key Of David said:
True, doctors do prescribe testosterone to certain individuals on an as needed basis. But this is because their own hormone levels have dropped below what is called the average numbers for a male. They aren't prescribed to make it rise above that average. Personally, I would consider anything that raises your testosterone levels not natural. True bodybuilding, in my opinion, is lifting weights and eating healthy and wholesome foods to obtain tha tgoal. Get your protein, good sleep and pump that iron! I remember when all of the controversy came out with Mark Maguire and Andro. I recall an article that said something like if it works above and beyond what nature can do, then it should not be considered natural. Great food for thought though! And great conversation!
God Bless!
Bobby & Val
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This is a great resource should you find yourself in that predicament again:peterc said:
http://www.blueletterbible.org
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Arnold has also admitted to his use in the past, but when the re-release of his bodybuilding encyolopedia occured, this had been edited. Wonder why?Bobby&Val said:
Do you actually wish to discuss the morality of AAS use, given that testosterone replacement therapy is becoming so incredibly popular? And legal.
I would be interested in a discussion based purely on scientific evidence, of course. And I do have a reason for this: the vast majority of people I discuss this with are serious athletes, and the perspective is often different from what is commonly held by the populace at large. Furthermore, having known thousands of athletes who were using prior to the advent of the Anabolic Steroid Control Act, my views of 'how dangerous they are' are more than likely a bit different.
As to the Christian perspective, I, of course, have no commment.
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catalyst said:
Simply put: Political ambitions.
As to testosterone replacement therapy, well, it would be like comparing apples and oranges. Having testosterone prescribed for theraputic values and the betterment of a man's daily life cannot compare to the illegal abuse that is rampant in the bodybuilding world.
As to how dangerous the steroids are, well, I for one value my liver, heart, kidneys and any other organ that is affected by these drugs. The price, as far as I am concerned and many, many other natural athletes is simply not worth the price. I wonder if we could get a quote from Lyle Alzado or perhaps the bodybuilder who died back stage? Hey how about those that have died from kidney failure? How about Milo Sarcev, who nearly killed himself with an injection of "posing oil?"
I could go on, but what is the point? God gave us these bodies. They are the temple for the Holy Spirit. Putting that garbage into your system to "get huge" or run faster or hit the ball longer is an excuse for fame and fortune. It does nothing to honor God.
You wish to debate based on "scientific evidence," but you offer as rebuttal those serious athletes with whom you discuss the topic. How is that scientific evidence? Simply put, it isn't athletes getting better by practicing their skills, honing them to perfection. It comes down to who has more money and the better pharmacist, or a doctor in their pocket with a scrip pad at their beck and call.
As to the Christian perspective, it has everything to do with it. If not to glorify God in all that you do, then why do it at all?
God bless!
Bobby & Val
Mark 10:27
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