Questions about the Apocrypha

Hi,

Thanks for those answers. I was actually taught correctly that the Sabbath is Saturday. I do however go to church on Sundays but that is because I guess we chose that day to honor Jesus' resurrection. I would never claim to be educated on all of this. I never studied Theology or anything like that. I only know that it must be so hard to try and live under that law! I was always taught that Jesus came not to change the law but to fulfill it. I do believe that He fullfilled the 333 prophesies of Him that were in the OT.

Actually I just learned about the number of prophesies fullfilled and I thought it was really neat! I even have a list of what they were if anyone is interested. Not that you wouldn't already know what they are!

I also have just begun reading a book from the old old old testament that was removed by the Jews in like 100 AD. I don't know exactly why it was removed but in any case this is one of the books from what we know today as The Apocrypha. There is an ongoing "war" between Protestants and Catholics as to whether or not the books were inspired. The books were kept in the Catholic bibles but removed from the Protestant bible in the 1800's. I guess what happened was when the Jews removed the books in the year 100 AD ( or right around there) the early Christians kept the books. The certain book I am talking about is the book of Wisdom. I have already found like 12 verses in that book that prophesied Jesus!

I am on a journey right now in my life to learn the truth surrounding all of these things. I hope you know that when I post here it is for my own education, I figure I can learn alot about the OT from you guys. I am not at all trying to discourage anything you do or do not do. I am certainly no one to say one way or the other! I just like to share my views and then hear yours. I hate arguing when it comes to matters of God and I most definately didn't come here in that spirit. So please do not think I am some crazy come here to start trouble.

I love you all in Christ. He is our common denominator

And Shalom! Or should I have said that in the beginning?

OOPS I also hope I didn't violate any of the forum rules by stating my beliefs that is not what I intended to do!

Thank you SO much for that info , you have no idea what it means to me! I have been so worried about those books in my Catholic bible and I am so glad to hear that they are not fake or phony as the Protestants claim them. It was great to have that affirmed.

Your name has a crazy resemblance to one of the "Left Behind" characters! Tsion BenJudah...I think that was his name. I appreciate any info I learn from all of you.

Why did they get removed then? Is it possible that it was because there were alot of prophesies about Jesus in them? I am curious about that. I always wondered if maybe after the crucifixion the Jewish people of that time realized He had actually been the Messiah and then didn't want anything to point to that? Please do remember I come here as a friend to discuss things and learn I am so fearful of offending someone as that really is not my intention I cannot stress that enough. It is just a question I have heard asked before and I'd like all of your input on that.

Ben ,

I am going to copy just 12 verses from the book of Wisdom here, I just read this myself and trust me I am no expert on it but does it sound like prophesy of Jesus to you? I'd love your opinion.

Wisdom 2:12-25

12 Let us, therefore, lie in wait for the just, because he is not for our turn, and he is contrary to our doings, and upbraideth us with transgressions of the law, and divulgeth against us the sins of our way of life.

13 He boasteth that he hath the knowledge of God, and calleth himself the son of God.

14 He is become a censurer of our thoughts.

15 He is grievous unto us, even to behold: for his life is not like other men's, and his ways are very different.

16 We are esteemed by him as triflers, and he abstaineth from our ways as from filthiness, and he preferreth the latter end of the just, and glorieth that he hath God for his father.

17 Let us see then if his words be true, and let us prove what shall happen to him, and we shall know what his end shall be.

18 For if he be the true son of God, he will defend him, and will deliver him from the hands of his enemies.

19 Let us examine him by outrages and tortures, that we may know his meekness, and try his patience.

20 Let us condemn him to a most shameful death: for there shall be respect had unto him by his words.

21 These things they thought, and were deceived: for their own malice blinded them.

22 And they knew not the secrets of God, nor hoped for the wages of justice, nor esteemed the honour of holy souls.

23 For God created man incorruptible, and to the image of his own likeness he made him.

24 But by the envy of the devil, death came into the world:

25 And they follow him that are of his side.

:topic: I seem to have rudely gone completely off the topic with these questions and discussions. Maybe we could create a different thread for this discussion?

Very good point

Thank you Justin!

I am glad you moved it I was starting to feel bad about totally taking over the other thread! Anyway, if anyone can offer any further info on this subject I am here to learn.

Thanks!
Christy