Working on the sabbath day

Isn't the Sabbath a saturday too.
When i go to church for some reason i always think about this. Didn't the Catholics just make it Sunday because, they felt like it.

Oh Spaise, there's a more intricate history to it than that. Just ask a Messianic Jew or Eastern Orthodox (won't that be fun? ).
Anyways, ideas about "Sabbath" vary for different Christian groups. What do you mean in your post? Are people being forced to work on their holy days or is just Sunday the point of contention? Interesting..
-Catherine

Well, that depends...G-d will judge us according to the Ten Commandments.
1. You will have no other gods before me.
Most of our society worship money...things

2.You will not make for yourself any graven image.
should be worshipping G-d, not a statue, or moon, or sun...

3.You will not take the name of G-d in vain.
It's funny that we use G...d..., but Hitler was a terrible person & we don't say Hitler d.....

4. Remember the Sabbath & keep it Holy

5. You shall honor your father & mother

6. You shall not kill.

7. You shall not commit adultry

8. You shall not steal

9. You shall not Lie

10. You shall not covet.

From the time the commandments were given to Moses, until now, this is what G-d will base your judgement on. Now you can say everyone has done these things, as was back then. G-d had instructed the Israelites on how to atone for their sins.

About 2000 years ago, G-d sent His Son, Jesus, to die on the cross. He was the ultimate sacrifice. He was sinless, but took our sins, and died for them. Three days later, a heartbeat was heard in this tomb, and Jesus lived, G-d had accepted the sacrifice.

If you are a Christian you worship G-d everyday! Many people in hospitals, nursing homes, and other places must work on the Sabbath. Everyone will
be judged by the Ten Commandments-but as long as you have accepted Jesus as your Savior, & repented, your sins have been paid for!

So if you choose not to accept Jesus, then yes, it's a sin. If you have accepted Jesus, then you have been forgiven!

Love & Blessings!
dee

You really don't have to follow the Commandments in less you want to. As long as you have Jesus and accept him in your heart your not going to hell. So do what you want, just get right with Jesus.

Spaise said:

You really don't have to follow the Commandments in less you want to. As long as you have Jesus and accept him in your heart your not going to hell. So do what you want, just get right with Jesus.

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So, what scripture brought you to that conclusion? That is simply not the case, and is a dangerous way of thinking for those who profess to be Christians.

The Sabbath isnt even Sunday .The reason I go to church on Sunday is because Jesus rose on a Sunday , and that is the most important thing .

As I recall , Jesus worked on the Sabbath and the Pharisees didnt like that .But Jesus did it.Keeping the Sabbath Holy does'nt mean that you can't work on it.Working could mean cooking , or walking , but if we didnt cook on the Sabbath , alot of people would be hungry.

The Sabbath (or Shabbat, as they call it) for the Jewish faith begins when the first star is seen on the Friday evening, til the first star on the Saturday evening. The Jews keep to strict rules about not using electricity, not being allowed to work on the their Sabbath. Since their Sabbath is not Sunday, I doubt that Jews find much problem about working on Sundays.

“Sabbath” comes from Hebrew yōm shabbāth, meaning day of cessation from work, which is Saturday (Sunday was the first day of the creation week, when light was created). Jews, in imitation of their God, are commanded to cease from any work of creation on Saturday. That does not equate to physical exertion. Such that, for example, moving ten heavy chairs upstairs on Saturdays is allowed, because it doesn’t create anything new, but lighting a match is forbidden, because it’s a creation.

The Sabbath is no longer a requirement because it was fulfilled through Christ's Atonement. As a result, Christ became our Sabbath.

Anyone who wants to continue it as if it is still Law to us, they are welcomed; but they will be judged according to the Mosaic Law, and not the Law of Faith, which we are now to keep.

All of the discussions I have read (I think all, I can't recall any others) here are about the legalism of the law on the sabbath. What God tells us in the Word is that it is the heart of the law we are to honor. To that end, let me try to answer your question from the standpoint of what the Biblical teaching is.

First, we understand that the world will change. It will become increasingly more sinful this is something that we can and should fight but will not be able to stop. The earth has been sinnful before and at it's worse, God destroyed the earth (Noah and the flood). So when we talk about honoring the sabbath, we start by understanding that as our world changes, those who are not true believers, committed christians will allow some sin into their lives and thus break the commands of God, even to the extent that they find a way to justify these sins. Sabbath is an easy one for this purpose and can easily be justified simply by argueing perifrial issues like what day of the week the sabbath falls on.

Second, let us look at what the sabbath is. To find this answer, we can go back to the beginning of the world. God created 6 days and rested 1. The idea of sabbath and even the command for sabbath, predates the calendar and as such, the discussions on which day of the week the sabbath is are sensless for it changes the focus from what the purpose of the sabbath is, easily allowing one to justify the sin of not having a sabbath. By the way, the sabbath is not set aside as a day to worship which we in this society emphasis, but rather as a day of rest from the labor we do.

This brings us to three, it is a day of rest. The pharisees of OT were repremanded by Jesus for making the sabbath a set of rules. They failed to understand the heart of the teaching, therefore to understand the sabbath, we dare not base our understanding on the OT law of what is and is not allowed. The heart of the law to have a sabbath is that we observe a day of rest from our labor. It is a day to renew ourselves and prepare ourselves for 6 new days of work.

When we understand these things, then to argue about whether or not I keep the sabbath, you must understand whether or not I take one day a week to rest and relax and veg, and enjoy being alive. This can occur any day of the week and I can do any number of things on that day. What I cannot do is my labor, my job, nor can I ask my household to do their labor. When it comes to fixing meals, if I fix the meals all week long, then I have my husband fix them, or cook ahead of time, or eat out at a restaurant that allows their employees days off. Other teachings and arguements are tradition and pull our focus from the truths of the teachings. The true believer, worships God, not tradition.

Heathen Dawn said:

“Sabbath” comes from Hebrew yōm shabbāth, meaning day of cessation from work, which is Saturday (Sunday was the first day of the creation week, when light was created). Jews, in imitation of their God, are commanded to cease from any work of creation on Saturday. That does not equate to physical exertion. Such that, for example, moving ten heavy chairs upstairs on Saturdays is allowed, because it doesn’t create anything new, but lighting a match is forbidden, because it’s a creation.

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If they cannot light a match, how then do they light the candles for Shabbat?

Isis-Astoroth said:

If they cannot light a match, how then do they light the candles for Shabbat?

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They light them just before the Sabbath comes (before the setting of the Sun on Friday evening).

dotcomguy said:

So, what scripture brought you to that conclusion? That is simply not the case, and is a dangerous way of thinking for those who profess to be Christians.

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I agree with that, there's nowhere in scriptures that state that accepting Messiah somehow frees us to break commandments. On the contrary keeping of the commandments is said to be the proof of rather or not we love Messiah and the Father.

peaceful soul said:

The Sabbath is no longer a requirement because it was fulfilled through Christ's Atonement. As a result, Christ became our Sabbath.

Anyone who wants to continue it as if it is still Law to us, they are welcomed; but they will be judged according to the Mosaic Law, and not the Law of Faith, which we are now to keep.

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Do you have a scripture to point this out?

To razzel: I'm finding it hard to see that Israel had the choice to choose which day to make a sabbath. Seems to me that as a society that followed the same rest in a 7 day cycle. Things would be much easier in there being one day verses everyone picking and choosing.

josyau said:

Do you have a scripture to point this out?

To razzel: I'm finding it hard to see that Israel had the choice to choose which day to make a sabbath. Seems to me that as a society that followed the same rest in a 7 day cycle. Things would be much easier in there being one day verses everyone picking and choosing.

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As I said, Jesus is our Sabbath, because when He died and resurrected, He took us from under the Laws; that includes Levitical and Mosaic.

Those laws were our guide and schoolmaster. They were used to prove that man is sinful. They were not meant for us to be burdened under for the rest of our lives. We were removed from the burden of the laws when Christ fulfilled them all. Jesus paid the full price for our inability to keep all of God's laws. Breaking just one of God's laws or not keeping one of them constituted disobedience, which is what sin is.

Now we live by faith alone. The law of faith is what we keep, not the Sabbath. The Lord is our Sabbath; for we rest in Him.

References:

Mat 12:7
Col 2:16

josyau said:

Do you have a scripture to point this out?

To razzel: I'm finding it hard to see that Israel had the choice to choose which day to make a sabbath. Seems to me that as a society that followed the same rest in a 7 day cycle. Things would be much easier in there being one day verses everyone picking and choosing.

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In a society structure, it is always helpful for the people to share common things. In the OT we often saw a common well, etc. This is also true of the place of worship. To aid in that societies function, it is also helpful to share a common day off. To assume that this "helpfulness" is law, violates all the teachings of Jesus on the sabbath. Time and time again, Jesus told the people, especially the pharisees, to cease from legalism. Just because a specific day is convinient, does not make it sacred. What makes it sacred is how we approach the day. It is much easier for the church society today to set asside a specific day to worship. That does not make that day any Holier than another. How I approach the day is what is important. I would like it if I could go to the "temple" and worship on my day off, but if I cannot, it is not a sin. Not taking a day off is a sin. By the way, not meeting with other believers is also a sin but there is no command by God on which day of the week we are to do this. Nor, is there a command as to how often we meet with other believers. That we meet on Sat. or Sun. (whichever you hold too), that we have a sermon, and that we meet every week, simply is tradition that allows our chuch society to function easier. When talking about Biblical law, we must be cautious to not confuse tradition with law.

peaceful soul said:

As I said, Jesus is our Sabbath, because when He died and resurrected, He took us from under the Laws; that includes Levitical and Mosaic.

Those laws were our guide and schoolmaster. They were used to prove that man is sinful. They were not meant for us to be burdened under for the rest of our lives. We were removed from the burden of the laws when Christ fulfilled them all. Jesus paid the full price for our inability to keep all of God's laws. Breaking just one of God's laws or not keeping one of them constituted disobedience, which is what sin is.

Now we live by faith alone. The law of faith is what we keep, not the Sabbath. The Lord is our Sabbath; for we rest in Him.

References:

Mat 12:7
Col 2:16

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It is a very wise thing to make the sabbath an exercise in inward trust in God, but nowhere in scripture including the ones you reference to, does God say that the physical practise of Sabbath is not also important. The mosaic law, by the way, this is the part of the law that is refered to when we speak of no longer be under the law, which is different from the commandments, is predominantly instructions on the general health and safety of the people. These are often good practises to follow but do not always hold the same dangers as they once did. For example, pork has in it a "bug" which if it is not cooked sufficiently, can cause serious illness or death. The people of old had insuffiecient cooking methods for heating the "bug" enough to kill it. Today, we easily can. The old law against eating pork was for the safety of the people. Does the danger still exist, yes, is it a danger to the same degree, no. The observation of the physical sabbath has such physical benefits, that it became one of the ten commandments, part of the law we are still suppose to observe. It is important to allow ourselves an oppertunity to renew and rejuvinate our bodys by resting. You don't believe me, ask anyone training for a sporting event if they need a rest from training before an event. I have yet to meet an athlete that will tell you that rest is not important for your muscles to rebuild. WE NEED REST! IF this command was only reserved for the inward, God could have stopped at Prov. 3:5-6