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I need some information.
I found out today my daughter is cutting herself.
Now I know that this is more of a help board for the person doing it, but I need to know why people cut?
My youngest daughter said its been going on along time, but there are no scars that i can tell unless she is just cutting the same cuts, but there are about 20 fresh cuts on her arm from like a week ago.
She didnt tell me, i found them. She wears a ton of bracelets on her arms and I just never noticed.. How stupid I am..
How can I get her to stop?
What are the items people use to cut?
What should I be watching for?
ANy other information..
I am getting a dr appt tomorrow for her, but it will probably be days.
 

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I was cutting and doing other self harm for a few years, though now I'm through it almost completely.

The first thing I'd like to say is that you should NOT accuse her of simply trying to get attention. For some reason that's a common accusation, and I suppose it's justified given that I've known a few people who did it to fit in or to get their parents to notice etc...

However, she obviously tried to hide it from you, and the truth is that she probably wishes you never knew about it.

I think it's more likely that she's using as a coping mechanism to deal with depression or other mental issues. One of the main problems with major depression -- which makes it so hard to get out of on your own -- is that it causes a person to ruminate and obsess over negative things. I used to tell myself for hours on end how useless and stupid and worthless and unlovable I was. The cutting breaks the cycle and the physical pain is a huge relief when it comes with mental peace.

After that, I suppose I should resist the impulse to give more advice as I'm not an expert by any means! You should be aware that you aren't going to be able to get her to stop right off. Because it provides such instant relief from mental pain, self-injury is very addictive and she's likely to relapse even years after she's "recovered." But this isn't a death sentence or anything! She CAN recover, though it's obviously quite difficult for you AND her!

So yeah, get her a doctor's appointment. Therapy -- ESPECIALLY Christian therapy (from professional therapists, not therapy from Church members) is key. Having somebody to talk to about the issues behind her stress is very important as the cutting won't go away without addressing the underlying issues.

It might also be a good idea to get an appointment for yourself with a therapist (a different therapist) to discuss how it affects you, and how you can best help your daughter through it. If you had somebody to check in with once a month, I think it could help you to be the best support possible and avoid screaming at her whenever the stress gets too much for YOU!

Unfortunately, self-injury HAS become more popular now that there's a large culture where it's accepted. With something as serious as this, nobody does it just to follow the crowd, but that does make it harder to find alternatives.

I really don't believe that cutting is ever a emergency situation that means your daughter is seriously considering suicide. At the saem time, it IS an emergency in the sense that she is hurting inside and isn't finding productive or sustainable ways to deal with it. Cutting is a very effective short-term solution that causes many more problems in the future. Again, I'm no professional, but I really think that with Christ, you can make it, and avoid believing the inevitable self-accusation that it's your fault!
 
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support her, let her know that you are not angry or dissapointed and just want to know that she is ok, tell her that she can always talk to you about anything, and no matter how much she says she's fine and that she doesn't need to hear this, it will help, even if it's just a little. the doctor will probly send her to councelling and then the root of the problem will be addressed there! just make sure she knows you love her and want to support her in recovery! I'll be praying for her! God bless PM me anytime if you have any questions you wanna ask me!
 
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I know a lot of self-injurers. They are all wonderful. What I have learned is that it is by and large a way to cope with things. Anyone from a girl who is abused to the high school prom queen can self-injure. The reasons it helps them are almost as unique as the person. It's hard to make a one-size-fits-all statement about why someone self-injures.
I see it as a symptom of something else. Family problems. Friend problems. School problems. Relationship problems. Problems with Depression. I also think that as we as a society continue to lose our sense of community and become more and more disconnected with one another that self-injury will continue to grow and grow.

The vast vast majority of self-injury is NOT done for attention.

Just know that your daughter isn't crazy. Let her know that you know that as well.
 
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I need to know why people cut?
I used to cut. For me, and many other people who cut, it was a form of release. I had so much emotional pain that I didn't know what to do with, that if I cut myself, I'd forget about what I was feeling inside, because of the physical pain. Its kind of hard to explain...

How can I get her to stop?

I don't think YOU can get her to stop. It sounds harsh, I know, to say that. But its true. Unless you are physically able to watch her 24/7... never letting her out of your sight for a second (this would mean follwing her around school, to the bathroom, sleeping in her bedroom, etc...), she probably will continue. I always found a way. There wasn't anything anyone could do (besides prayer, and just "being there" for me, and not coming down on me) to get me to stop. But you COULD go as far as hiding certain types of objects in a spot she wont find them. The less there is to work with, the less she'll cut (hopefully).

What are the items people use to cut?
I can't answer that question publicly, since in this forum it would be innapropriate... it might give current self injurers new ideas. I'll PM you if you want a list of potential items you might want to hide/get rid of in your home.

What should I be watching for?

Isolation. Closed doors, locked doors, ect. Wearing long sleeves in hot weather. If she used to wear 2 piece bathing suits, and now insists on wearing a T-shirt over it, or wearing a one piece.


Some advice... don't be hard on her for this behavior, because she is obviously very depressed. Getting anry, or even giving the impression that you are angry with her can make her want to do it more. Also, things like "Are you trying to kill yourself??" and "Don't do that!!!" aren't helpful...

By no means am I saying to ignore it, but approach her with understanding, and an open ear. Let her know that you LOVE her, and it hurts you to see her hurting. You don't have to completely understand the behavior... but let her know that you WANT to understand her.

Let me know if you need anything.

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i have self harmed n i often fight against doing it again... the advise people have given on here is great...

just to answer the question about objects, i just want to say that from a personal point of veiw where there is a will there is a way, i find it hard when i see a knife (ie, kitchen knife) because instantly i think of self harm and strong desires come over me, so it may be wise to be aware of the obvious objects, but to completly stop her you would have to put her in a padded room with her mouth taped shut and her fingers/nails binded... and that isnt possible... - i hope that was some kind of help...

just one question tho, how old is your daughter?
 
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Deamiter said:
I was cutting and doing other self harm for a few years, though now I'm through it almost completely.

The first thing I'd like to say is that you should NOT accuse her of simply trying to get attention. For some reason that's a common accusation, and I suppose it's justified given that I've known a few people who did it to fit in or to get their parents to notice etc...

However, she obviously tried to hide it from you, and the truth is that she probably wishes you never knew about it.

I think it's more likely that she's using as a coping mechanism to deal with depression or other mental issues. One of the main problems with major depression -- which makes it so hard to get out of on your own -- is that it causes a person to ruminate and obsess over negative things. I used to tell myself for hours on end how useless and stupid and worthless and unlovable I was. The cutting breaks the cycle and the physical pain is a huge relief when it comes with mental peace.

After that, I suppose I should resist the impulse to give more advice as I'm not an expert by any means! You should be aware that you aren't going to be able to get her to stop right off. Because it provides such instant relief from mental pain, self-injury is very addictive and she's likely to relapse even years after she's "recovered." But this isn't a death sentence or anything! She CAN recover, though it's obviously quite difficult for you AND her!

So yeah, get her a doctor's appointment. Therapy -- ESPECIALLY Christian therapy (from professional therapists, not therapy from Church members) is key. Having somebody to talk to about the issues behind her stress is very important as the cutting won't go away without addressing the underlying issues.

It might also be a good idea to get an appointment for yourself with a therapist (a different therapist) to discuss how it affects you, and how you can best help your daughter through it. If you had somebody to check in with once a month, I think it could help you to be the best support possible and avoid screaming at her whenever the stress gets too much for YOU!

Unfortunately, self-injury HAS become more popular now that there's a large culture where it's accepted. With something as serious as this, nobody does it just to follow the crowd, but that does make it harder to find alternatives.

I really don't believe that cutting is ever a emergency situation that means your daughter is seriously considering suicide. At the saem time, it IS an emergency in the sense that she is hurting inside and isn't finding productive or sustainable ways to deal with it. Cutting is a very effective short-term solution that causes many more problems in the future. Again, I'm no professional, but I really think that with Christ, you can make it, and avoid believing the inevitable self-accusation that it's your fault!
I noticed the cuts when she was sleeping (she is not drawing blood), but she is lieing about how long it has been happening. I found them and then i asked her have u been out in the woods or something, she said no, I said then your cutting your arms arent u? She never said yes or no, but really triggered me is, I talked to her yrs ago about it, and told her all the problems that fall with it.
I didnt yell, I just told her she had to go to ER or doctor or something.
I have not made her feel guilty or caused her any more stress, i have even been doing her dishes (which is her chore everyday, while we are dealing with dr appts)
I did take her to ER, she told them its only been happing for a mth, which my younger daughter said she tried to do it to her and she watched her do it and it was happening longer than a month.
I didnt call my daughter a lier or anything, i did ask for the safety pins and im checking her arms everyday and I told her that if i had ANY thought she was cutting somehwere else id check her as I wished to. (maybe thats was wrong, i dont know, but im not watching her do it)
Now her arms are healing and she even told me tonight, look the marks are almost gone.
She came out of ER crying and told a girl in the ER waiting room why she was there, she kind of acts like its not a big deal or she isnt embarrased about it.

Im not gonna treat her "Special" "Different" because she is cutting, because I dont want it to be like. Ok your cutting, ill treat u special.
they also put her on a 10mg anti depressant today.
What do u think?
 
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My daughter is 14...
Yeah, my husband said same thing, she will cut if she awnts to, nothing we can do but check her arms, but if she doesnt leave a bad enough mark where it lasts we cant stop it. I did ask her if she was trying to kill herself, and she said no. I didnt know that was an inappropriate question.
She told the dr, she just walks over gets the object, does it and then goes on her way with whatever she was doing.
I thought about taking all the sharp objects out of her room, but id have to take a lot, and I didnt want to invade her privacy and get her more upset, so I just let it go..
I asked my church family for a private prayer request for her, but didnt go into detail.

Now that i know, she acts like she wants everyone to know what she does, She holds her arms out.. I even catch her staring at her arm where she cut..
Is this normal?

Since she isnt drawing blood do u think that maybe i caught it early enough that she isnt addicted?
 
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One other thing she has a burn on the same spot where she is cutting.
Should I be concerned?
She said she did it at work... which it could of possibly happened.
It looks more like a bruise then a burn..
I didnt yell or accuse her of lieing, im just watching for more burns.
 
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yer i think you should let her go, she is with a friend and an adult, i think she will be fine. I can imagine how you feel about your daughter though, i'm 19 and do not want my parents (well..guardians) to know about it at all because it would worry them. I just do it as a way of coping with stuff, i know i shouldn't but it's better than doing some things. One day i will recover from it. Just letting you know, that you are doign a good job with your daughter and i;m sure she will overcome the problem at some point.
 
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if you would have usually let her go shoppin then let her go, because as you said you do not want to treat her differently.
i think you are doing the right thing, you are handling it alot better than alot of parents i know.
self harm isn't about drawing blood necessarily and there isn't a straight answer to whether she may be addicted, i can say from personal experience that i did not want people to know so i'm not too sure why she is talking about it as if it is normal.
burning is another form of self harm, but i think you are doing the right thing by not accusing her of lying or anything. she may have done it at work, but you need to keep reasuring her that she can be honest with you and she doesn't have to lie as you will not be angry, and tell her it is also important to have a trust between the two of you.
i hope this has been of some help
much love
xx
 
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i had a preety serious cutting problem earlier this year. it is all explained in my Trouble at Home thread. i stopped because of the connnection i developed with God. i got the connnection after my best friend brought me to her youth group. may fifteenth of this year, i was babtized at the same church. i havent cut in 4 to 5 months. the connection i have with God is keeping me from ever cutting again. honestly i have lately thought about cutting again because of family problems, but i didn't instead i prayed. id be happy to talk to your daughter for you. i've helped out others with self injury problems and they've gotten through it through prayer. talking with someone who has gone though what she is going though helps. it really does. make sure you don't stop praying for her. prayer can and will change anything and everything. she can pm me or get on aol im -eastside9008, or yahoo messenger-icanonlyimagine51505. i'll be praying for you and your daughter.

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don't try and stop her cutting, because the cutting isn't the problem, unless it could kill her, whas needs to stopped is the reasons beind that.. so if the cuts aren't deep or anything, i wouldn't focus on them, or even talk about them much. But rather help her to get the underlying issues sorted out.
 
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i had a preety serious cutting problem earlier this year. it is all explained in my Trouble at Home thread. i stopped because of the connnection i developed with God. i got the connnection after my best friend brought me to her youth group. may fifteenth of this year, i was babtized at the same church. i havent cut in 4 to 5 months. the connection i have with God is keeping me from ever cutting again. honestly i have lately thought about cutting again because of family problems, but i didn't instead i prayed. id be happy to talk to your daughter for you. i've helped out others with self injury problems and they've gotten through it through prayer. talking with someone who has gone though what she is going though helps. it really does. make sure you don't stop praying for her. prayer can and will change anything and everything. she can pm me or get on aol im -eastside9008, or yahoo messenger-icanonlyimagine51505. i'll be praying for you and your daughter.

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I went thru the same thing. i cut for almost a year and a half. Im not too proud of the scars it left. But now im trying to help ppl who have cut. i woud be halpp y to pray for her and even talk to her if u like. im 16 so maybe she would relate to me better.

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