To Straight Men

From a straight man,

Being a free thinker and stuff, I'm going to go with no, just because I'm not sexually attracted to men, I'm hapily engaged to a wonderful woman, persecution blows, and I don't live my life by a single book.

gaijin178 said:

To Straight men,


If, hypothetically speaking, the Bible said that for a man to lie with a woman, was an abonination, would you change your ways and only be with another man?

Hypothetically, what would you say or do? Would you change your ways? Would you choose a life of persecution?

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Of course! The bible is to be blindly obeyed without thought. If I can't make myself attracted to other men then its obvious that I'm demon-possesed or that I just don't have enough faith, or that I was seduced into the heterosexual lifestyle by some straight-agenda. No matter the case its obviously a choice.

*open mouth, insert finger*

gaijin178 said:

Two Straight men,

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... walked into a bar.

Sorry: wrong thread.

gaijin178 said:

To Straight men,


If, hypothetically speaking, the Bible said that for a man to lie with a woman, was an abonination, would you change your ways and only be with another man?

Hypothetically, what would you say or do? Would you change your ways? Would you choose a life of persecution?

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You watched 30 Days too huh Great show.

I wouldnt change. I am a heterosexual, and if thats wrong, then so be it.

gaijin178 said:

To Straight men,


If, hypothetically speaking, the Bible said that for a man to lie with a woman, was an abonination, would you change your ways and only be with another man?

Hypothetically, what would you say or do? Would you change your ways? Would you choose a life of persecution?

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God gave man a desire towards the opposite sex.
If God says thou shall not... then you better not.
The problem is that we try and see how we can get away and sin, instead of see how we can please God. Does a home relationship please God. I don't think so.

But then so does many other stuff not please God, which unfortunatly the church is very quite about. Such as ............................... rather not

gaijin178 said:

If, hypothetically speaking, the Bible said that for a man to lie with a woman, was an abonination, would you change your ways and only be with another man?

Hypothetically, what would you say or do? Would you change your ways? Would you choose a life of persecution?

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Nope. I dont really care what any human thinks about me morality wise, and I would not follow such a god if that was what such a deity wanted. Screw em. Also, procreation dosent work homosexually. Note that I have no problem with homosexuals, im just not one.

I would die a martyr (pulling heterosexuals into a burning house), go to heaven, and then kill god. (And then eat his heart to gain his power and knowledge, after which I would abolish slavery and make everyone shovel coal in hell. With their mouths.)

My peace be on you all.

The way I look at it, is that I was put on earth as a heterosexual. I am also very attacted to women. That said, I wouldn't change my lifestyle simply because a book that I have difficult time accepting says it is wrong. Nor would I wallow in self pitty over being a "sinner."

gaijin178 said:

To Straight men,


If, hypothetically speaking, the Bible said that for a man to lie with a woman, was an abonination, would you change your ways and only be with another man?

Hypothetically, what would you say or do? Would you change your ways? Would you choose a life of persecution?

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I would say it would be easier because men tend to understand and think more on the same wavelength - same for women in comparison. I would also say that men and women wouldn't get along very well and have even less respect for each other because there wouldn't be a 'need' to get along with one another - I suspect women would be oppressed more (or at least continued to be) than they already have been in the past.
Change my ways? Maybe, as far as sexual behavior; but it wouldn't change much seeing as I already love, respect, have close ties to men - I just don't happen to sleep with them or entertain thoughts as such.

Persecution? I thought your hypothetical was based on same gender relationships being the norm... where would the persecution come from?
I suppose I could twist it into a persecution... pre-marital sex is looked down upon and was even more so in the past, that didn't seem to stop some and the instant gratification of fulfilling a desire or exploring has and seems to over-ride any consequence in many instances - so sure, many would choose a life of persecution.

Is that straight enough?

gaijin178 said:

From a straight man,

What if the book and the faith that you had told you that you were going to hell because you were with a woman? would you try to be with a man or just accept it because you were born heterosexual?

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Considering that my "Book" and faith told me that I would be going to hell because I was with many women and I lusted for more, I rejected my natural tendencies and have found that a single relationship is much more challenging and more rewarding. So the question seems already answered, only the conditionals have changed.

gaijin178 said:

To Straight men,


If, hypothetically speaking, the Bible said that for a man to lie with a woman, was an abonination, would you change your ways and only be with another man?

Hypothetically, what would you say or do? Would you change your ways? Would you choose a life of persecution?

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I am attracted to whom I am attracted.

ChristianCenturion said:

Considering that my "Book" and faith told me that I would be going to hell because I was with many women and I lusted for more, I rejected my natural tendencies and have found that a single relationship is much more challenging and more rewarding. So the question seems already answered, only the conditionals have changed.

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So you would be with a man?

Well, aside from that I don't believe the Bible, I would remain hetero. Just like the gays who know the Bible says it's wrong but do it anyways.

gaijin178 said:

If, hypothetically speaking, the Bible said that for a man to lie with a woman, was an abonination, would you change your ways and only be with another man?

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With all due respect, that really is an extreme hypothetical. If such a directive were devoutly followed, how would believers reproduce themselves? (Would in-vitro fertilization be acceptable?) Although there have been sects that believed all sexual relations were sinful. The Shakers were one, I believe. And AFAIK, there aren't many Shakers around.

The Biblical proscription on homosexuality reflects little more than the cultural taboos of the ancient Hebrews, which were later incorporated into Christianity. I will try to conform my behavior to standards of reason, compassion, and respect for others, rather than primitive superstitions.

gaijin178 said:

What I meant by chosing persecution would be to go against the norm, choose to be heterosexual and face persecution even though it was considered wrong by the masses. It's the same thing as saying that folks who are gay actually choose to be so.

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Tastes change, people's perception of right and wrong change, opinions and views change, dependency, habits, addictions, and behavior in general are subject to change, etc.
To have a deviant and/or detrimental behavior which is wrong or known to have detrimental repercussions and continue to do so is a choice or a disorder.
For some reason, people have taken what a few scientists have theorized as may, might, possibly, etc. and declared that it is fact and even go further in declaring that it is all a special case that can't be compared to anything else, such as:
http://alcoholism.about.com/od/genetics/
http://www.cdc.gov/genomics/info/perspectives/files/obesknow.htm
http://www.drugabuse.gov/STRC/Role1.html
http://content.apa.org/journals/xan/20/2/199

I personally find it irrelevant HOW a person got where they are spiritually or mentally. The issue is what they choose to do there on out. Spiritually, I also testify and believe in a God that all things are possible - so spiritually, the how or why is irrelevant.
In addition, I find that the declaration that there is no reason the person in question should change is also coupled with everyone else must change as a bit off without proper reasoning. I still haven't seen a legitimate reason for the whole world to cater to an atypical, sexual behavior. But since this is all hypothetical - IMO.

gaijin178 said:

To Straight men,


If, hypothetically speaking, the Bible said that for a man to lie with a woman, was an abonination, would you change your ways and only be with another man?

Hypothetically, what would you say or do? Would you change your ways? Would you choose a life of persecution?

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Why would God, who inspired Holy Scripture, have made humans male and female, and then have such a statement appear in what He inspired?

This "hypothetical" is simply a compound question in disguise.

Blessings,

Gerry