Extra-terrestrial Intelligence

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stone said:
plus there is also the argument that according to einstein's theories self perpetual motion can not be attained? true? however, the earth is in motion and has been in motion since before the creation of the human race, however you think human were created, be it, evolution or by god, the argument is the same, the earth has existed before the humans and will be around long after there are no humans to exist.

Maybe you can justify how a human can argue that the rotation of the earth is slowing down when there will be no humans in existance to witness whether or not the earth is still in motion. This doesn't even take into consideration the entire galaxy that is in perpetual motion.

I suppose this could fall under the thoery of, if a tree falls in the forest and makes a loud noise, but no one is there to hear it, does it still make a loud noise? of course it does.

The earth is in motion, the solar system is in self perpetual motion, no doctor or scientist can justify any theory that says it will stop spinning or crash into the sun or be shattered by an asteroid, which could be in 2036. I bet you didn't know that the department of defense and nasa has gone before congress already to create a new branch of governement called the asteroid response agency due to an asteroid on a collision course to hit earth eta 2036, i believe it was, it is soon. anyrate, yea, einstein, whatever.

I was meditateing one night, i was asking god to show me why well... i won't get into what i was asking, i don't feel like getting folks in an uproar again, sose we'll just say, i was shown a vision of the solar system. Now you tell me how Einsteen can justify that the earth is not in perpetual motion?

Meds, dude. Be carefull with the meds.
 
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LewisWildermuth said:
No it would not bankrupt the world or take generations to get to the nearest stars... The United States could probably do it in a year if it channeled its entire GNP into the effort. We already have the technology and have had it for quite a while. Using an "Orion" type thermonuclear engine for rapid acceleration and braking and an ion drive (like Deep Space 1) for the intermediate drive we could quickly reach near to the speed of light in travel speeds.

Ummm. Yes it would. It would be difficult for Orion to get up to 1% c. And an ion drive won't get you much faster. you would need a ship capable of being on its own for 500 years or much longer. Not an easy task. I am not going to take the time to outline all the dificulties, but it is true it would bankrupt the world to make one.
 
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and once again, all i receive is ridicule, but no one is able to counter the truth with anything other than, well... it's easily seen that when one is confronted with something that they can not understand that " I " simply do not know what i am talking about, ***clears throat*** but it is not only " I " and you atheist have nothing that can stand up to this breaking of the laws of science, and that is because you can not.

hey you might like to check this machine out, it's pretty neat, kinda like that one i'm building.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=2&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1=5,594,289&OS=5,594,289&RS=5,594,289

and this child's toy is kinda kool too :

http://www.levitron.com/

***

o yea, and as far as the traveling goes and the time, well... i bumped this because of the theory in the other thread someone mentioned, or do you guys not understand what he was saying?
 
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stone said:
and once again, all i receive is ridicule, but no one is able to counter the truth with anything other than, well... it's easily seen that when one is confronted with something that they can not understand that " I " simply do not know what i am talking about, ***clears throat*** but it is not only " I " and you atheist have nothing that can stand up to this breaking of the laws of science, and that is because you can not.

hey you might like to check this machine out, it's pretty neat, kinda like that one i'm building.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=2&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1=5,594,289&OS=5,594,289&RS=5,594,289
Tell me you are not asserting that that machine works as advertised just because there is a patent for it.
and this child's toy is kinda kool too :

http://www.levitron.com/
The word "toy" should give you pause.
 
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Hydra009 said:
Alien life somewhere out there ---> Probably
Alien life that is visiting Earth + government conspiracy theories ---> No
Ditto. I suspect that there are many intelligent races in this galaxy. There are billions of stars - so many that could harbour favorable planets.
However i suspect that interstellar travel is extremely difficult.
 
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Illuminatus said:
I weep for thee, scientific education.

As do I.

But we must prepare ourselves for the invasion, brother! Repent! Go! Grab ye tinfoil helmet and prepare ye-self for the invasion force from planet Tgrihergojiroo!

[/blatant sarcasm]

Seriously people, are we actually having a discussion about aliens on earth? Government conspiracy theorists gather around like a bunch of moths on a light at the first mention of aliens.
 
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"...The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12"The Spirit clearly says that in the later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons." 1 Timothy 4:1"For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.They will turn their ears away from truth and turn aside to myths. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 2 Thes2:9 Even him,whose coming is after the working of Satan withall power and signs andlying wonders, And with all deceivableness ofunrighteousness in them thatperish;becausethey received not the love of the truth, thatthey might be saved.And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they shouldbelieve a lieWe believe this powerful delusion to be the UFO phenomenonBible explains whereSatan currently resides, and connects him with forces in the atmosphere . Paul says we wrestle not with flesh and blood,but with principalitiesand powers, with wicked spirits in high places, literally, "in the heavens""in the aerial regions"Eph.6:12. Hence Satan is called "the prince ofthe Power of the air" "the prince of the aerial host" Eph.2:2. The confederationof rebel angels is seated in the atmospheric heaven in the spaces aboveand around our world.This fundamental of scripture contradicts many traditionalconcepts of "hell" as the domain of the devil and his minions .king david realised jesus enemy was in the air/sky when he wrote-For who in the sky (the atmosphere) shall be ranked with Jehovah,who among the sons of the mighty is like Jehovah? Psalm 89:6Baalhazor," Lordof the fortresses" provides a connection between Baal and the god of theAntichrist. Baal was lord of war and of the sky.Many titles for Baal , examples in scripture are Baalbamoth= Lord of the high places, Baalzebub=Lord of those who fly, or, flit. Zebub is a Hebrew verb which means toflit from place to place. Baal is identified as Satan by Jesus himself, Matt.10:25 Mark. 3:22 Luke 11:15.
 
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