The Big Revival... (Before or After the Tribulation starts)

billiefan2000 · Jan 14, 2004

This may have been discussed already, but I do have a question about revival. I have seen many TV evangelists and even my own Pastor saying we are on the verge of a mighty revival. This perplexes me because I truly believe we are living in the end times and if it is so, then shouldn't things get worse and not better? I don't see revival happening in the last days of Noah.

Is all the revival talk Biblical? Are they saying revival because now more than ever we have the urge to spread the Gospel to unbelievers since we are in end times?

The revival talk confuses me. I would love to see revival and millions come to Christ.

also many say that Revelation 7:9-14 proves there will be a big revival during the Tribulation. Is that true,and if not,why and what does Revelation 7:9-14 mean then?

Dad Ernie · Jan 14, 2004

Greetings Billyfan,

also many say that Revelation 7:9-14 proves there will be a big revival during the Tribulation. Is that true,and if not,why and what does Revelation 7:9-14 mean then?

You are quite correct here. There have been many "revivals" during the last 2,000 years, but there will be none like the one that is going to occur DURING the Tribulation period. The "nature" of mankind is to become quite sedate and wishy-washy during times of peace and rest. But when tribulation comes their way, all of a sudden they wake up and start calling out to God for help. So, indeed the Great Tribulation also means a Great Revival.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

Trish1947 · Jan 14, 2004

You are quite correct here. There have been many "revivals" during the last 2,000 years, but there will be none like the one that is going to occur DURING the Tribulation period. The "nature" of mankind is to become quite sedate and wishy-washy during times of peace and rest. But when tribulation comes their way, all of a sudden they wake up and start calling out to God for help. So, indeed the Great Tribulation also means a Great Revival.

Blessings,

As a read in Joel.. Chapter 2 verse 16..

Gather the people, sanctify the congreation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts, let the bridegroom go forth out of his chamber and the bride OUT OF HER CLOSET. Let the priests, the ministers of the Lord weep between the porch and the alter and let them say Spare thy people O Lord, and give not thine heritage to reproach , that the heathen should RULE over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God?

Notice before this verse, the cancorworm has eaten the corn, truth is fallen in the street, Destructions and desolations through wars are happening..

Then in Verse 28 The outpouring of the Spirit of God is happening.. But notice, it happens when the church is commanded to come OUT OF HER CLOSET!!..( We are hiding like cowards sounds like to me). When the Church has had enough of this evil, and she does, the Heavens are being bombarded with prayer of the Saints, And the Lord comes out of His Chamber. So we have just as much to do with the Outpouring of the Holy Spirit as his ministers of the Gospel.

Then the next verses are the judgements of the Nations.

Big Mouth Nana · Jan 14, 2004

billiefan2000 said:
This may have been discussed already, but I do have a question about revival. I have seen many TV evangelists and even my own Pastor saying we are on the verge of a mighty revival. This perplexes me because I truly believe we are living in the end times and if it is so, then shouldn't things get worse and not better? I don't see revival happening in the last days of Noah.

Is all the revival talk Biblical? Are they saying revival because now more than ever we have the urge to spread the Gospel to unbelievers since we are in end times?

The revival talk confuses me. I would love to see revival and millions come to Christ.

also many say that Revelation 7:9-14 proves there will be a big revival during the Tribulation. Is that true,and if not,why and what does Revelation 7:9-14 mean then?

This may have been discussed already, but I do have a question about revival. I have seen many TV evangelists and even my own Pastor saying we are on the verge of a mighty revival. This perplexes me because I truly believe we are living in the end times and if it is so, then shouldn't things get worse and not better? I don't see revival happening in the last days of Noah.

God said that in the last days that he would pour out His Spirit on all flesh. I believe this will happen during the tribulation. The reason that there was no revival in Noahs day, was because man was so evil, and God repented that He had even made man... Gen 6:6 ~ And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Pericles · Jan 14, 2004

Dad Ernie said:
Greetings Billyfan,

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You are quite correct here. There have been many "revivals" during the last 2,000 years, but there will be none like the one that is going to occur DURING the Tribulation period.

Dad Ernie

And you know this HOW exactly?

Big Mouth Nana · Jan 14, 2004

Pericles said:
And you know this HOW exactly?

Hosea 6:2 ~ After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. Alot of prophecy teachers believe this "after 2 days" is really after 2000 years. The third day is the second coming. We are already almost into the third day according to alot of prophecy teachers. I agree with them.

billiefan2000 · Jan 14, 2004

Dad Ernie said:
Greetings Billyfan,

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You are quite correct here. There have been many "revivals" during the last 2,000 years, but there will be none like the one that is going to occur DURING the Tribulation period. The "nature" of mankind is to become quite sedate and wishy-washy during times of peace and rest. But when tribulation comes their way, all of a sudden they wake up and start calling out to God for help. So, indeed the Great Tribulation also means a Great Revival.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

I think people will wake up when they realize the world is going crazy and getting worse cause like they say:

There are no such things as atheists in foxholes and I think once it becomes evident more and more how the Anti-Christ will really shows his true colors when the tribulation gets closer to the 2nd coming,people will realize they need Jesus Christ

Pericles · Jan 15, 2004

By His Grace said:
Hosea 6:2 ~ After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. Alot of prophecy teachers believe this "after 2 days" is really after 2000 years. The third day is the second coming. We are already almost into the third day according to alot of prophecy teachers. I agree with them.

What? This is an idiotic explanation...most scholars believe this is a direct reference to the resurrection of Christ, in which life is offered to the world. Not only that, but there is no mentioning of "revival in the last days". Let me try this again: Where does the Bible say that there will be a revival in the last days, before Jesus comes back?

billiefan2000 · Jan 15, 2004

Pericles:

dont Revelation 7:9-14 say there will be revival in the last days

Big Mouth Nana · Jan 15, 2004

Pericles said:
What? This is an idiotic explanation...most scholars believe this is a direct reference to the resurrection of Christ, in which life is offered to the world. Not only that, but there is no mentioning of "revival in the last days". Let me try this again: Where does the Bible say that there will be a revival in the last days, before Jesus comes back?

Idiotic to you, but makes alot of sense to me. Gods Word is Spirit Pericles. It has a Spiritual meaning, and it is revealed by the Spirit. I can see it as plain as day. If you can't...SORRY. Also, how did Jesus revive us in two days, when He arose on the third? He was DEAD in the tomb on the second day. I can see how we were raised up on the 3rd day, when He arose. This has a parallel meaning here that bible scholars would take as the resurrection. As far as living in His sight, we have always been in His sight, HE'S GOD.
Recall the scripture, a thousand years is as one day to the Lord, and one day as a thousand years, 2nd Peter 3:8, and also in Psalms 90:4? The second day is 2000 years, the 3rd day is 3000 years. These verses in the bible have important significance regarding the Lord.

Durelen · Jan 16, 2004

billiefan2000 said:
This perplexes me because I truly believe we are living in the end times and if it is so, then shouldn't things get worse and not better?

1 Timothy 4:1 But the Spirit saith expressly, that in later times some shall fall away from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons,

Yes yes but the great revival fits into the Tribulation times. After the Church is raptured (caught up) just as the time of the 7 year tribulation begins, many whom we warned concerning these days will have their proof and there will be a great repentance, by the grace of our Lord. These will be the Tribulation Saints and they will endure much to the end.

We are now in latter times and many shall depart from the faith until the beginning of the times which Daniel and the prophets spoke of by the word of God. God will pour out his Spirit on all flesh after the conclusion of the Tribulation for the literal millennial reign of Christ on earth.
Joel 28And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh

But yes we do need a revival in our time for the Church will face judgment first. 1 Timothy is a good pointer for what this judgment is concerning. Be not perplexed, maybe you should broaden your understandings beyond what televangelists are teaching.

Pericles · Jan 16, 2004

billiefan2000 said:
Pericles:

dont Revelation 7:9-14 say there will be revival in the last days

Not really - all I see there is the 144,000 and the description of the believers coming out of the tribulation...no mentioning of a "great revival" in the last days at all.

Does this revival invole southern gospel, healings, etc? Maybe TBN is your answer....

Pericles · Jan 16, 2004

By His Grace said:
God said that in the last days that he would pour out His Spirit on all flesh. I believe this will happen during the tribulation. The reason that there was no revival in Noahs day, was because man was so evil, and God repented that He had even made man... Gen 6:6 ~ And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Wrong again...Jesus said that the last days will be like the days of Noah - be consistent! On one hand you are whining about how bad things are, on the other hand you are saying that there was no revival in Noah's days because people were evil. Make up your mind....

GodsWatchman · Jan 16, 2004

Pericles said:
What? This is an idiotic explanation...most scholars believe this is a direct reference to the resurrection of Christ, in which life is offered to the world. Not only that, but there is no mentioning of "revival in the last days". Let me try this again: Where does the Bible say that there will be a revival in the last days, before Jesus comes back?

"Most Scholars" are leading the sheople to the slaughter house. And isn't it kool that God can perform DUAL prophecies like this? He is more Omniscient that some think.

Big Mouth Nana · Jan 16, 2004

Pericles said:
Wrong again...Jesus said that the last days will be like the days of Noah - be consistent! On one hand you are whining about how bad things are, on the other hand you are saying that there was no revival in Noah's days because people were evil. Make up your mind....

Yes, He did say that the last days would be like the days of Noah. So what is the problem Pericles? The only differance between the days of Noah, and today, is that there are more Christians and "ungodly" people on the earth. Also, God isn't going to wipe man out again by a flood, He is going to pour His Spirit out on ALL FLESH. ALL MEANS ALL. Everyone is going to have one final chance to be saved before all is said and done. Revival always brings people to Christ by the tons. This is going to be the best revival in history, because of Him pouring out His Spirit.
One more thing here. I haven't "whined" since I was a small child. You are talking to an adult here. If you can't talk to me like an adult, then don't talk to me at all. Fair enough

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Gary777 · Jan 16, 2004

I too belive that jesus taught an endtime harvest, and a key scripture is the matt. 13 where he explain "and the harvest is the end of the world;" and "and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers... gather the wheat into my barn.".

Also, a huge number of both OT and NT scriptures claims that the kingdom of God will be visible over the earth, the knowledge of his glory will cover the earth and the enemies of Jesus will be under his feet before him coming etc. (this is NOT in the millenium, this is BEFORE his coming)

Also, the vision of Jesus for the church must be fulfilled before his return, all nations and ethnic groups will be discipled before his return to earth. I dont belive that Jesus will accept only a partly fulfilment of his commandment.

We need to stop waiting for the big rapture in my opinion. We need to stop waiting for us goint to heaven and begin to bring heaven to earth, instead. If not we will wait for ever. can you say amen?

Also, someone need to stop waiting for antichrist to come and tattoo us on our foreheads. If thats what occupies our minds...no wonder no one gets saved in your church!

Big Mouth Nana · Jan 16, 2004

Gary777 said:
I too belive that jesus taught an endtime harvest, and a key scripture is the matt. 13 where he explain "and the harvest is the end of the world;" and "and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers... gather the wheat into my barn.".

Also, a huge number of both OT and NT scriptures claims that the kingdom of God will be visible over the earth, the knowledge of his glory will cover the earth and the enemies of Jesus will be under his feet before him coming etc. (this is NOT in the millenium, this is BEFORE his coming)

Also, the vision of Jesus for the church must be fulfilled before his return, all nations and ethnic groups will be discipled before his return to earth. I dont belive that Jesus will accept only a partly fulfilment of his commandment.

We need to stop waiting for the big rapture in my opinion. We need to stop waiting for us goint to heaven and begin to bring heaven to earth, instead. If not we will wait for ever. can you say amen?

Also, someone need to stop waiting for antichrist to come and tattoo us on our foreheads. If thats what occupies our minds...no wonder no one gets saved in your church!

Hi Gary777. Yes, we do need to stop looking for the "big rapture". No one is "going up" until His Spirit "goes out" over the whole earth. Regarding the AC, as I believe that we will be here during the tribulation, I think the Lord would want us to be as wise as serpents, and as harmless as doves as His Words states in Matt. 10:16. I'm not looking for the return of Jesus at this point, although His coming is my blessed hope of glory in the future. There is an antichrist coming, and I believe that we are going to know who he is before Jesus comes back. We still have to see the fullfillment of this first:Luke 21:24-28 ~ And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, THEN LOOK UP, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth "nigh". Close, but not yet.

Big Mouth Nana · Jan 16, 2004

GodsWatchman said:
"Most Scholars" are leading the sheople to the slaughter house. And isn't it kool that God can perform DUAL prophecies like this? He is more Omniscient that some think.

Not only duel prophecies GodsWatchman, but even scriptures. That is why we need the Holy Spirit as our teacher. Gods Words are Spirit, so it takes the Spirit to open them up to us. As a for instance, let me share this one with you that the Spirit revealed to me some years back. I was so excited that I started praising God and shouting, lol...Psalms 37:4 ~ Delight thyself also in the LORD: and He shall give thee the desires of thine heart. In other words, He puts the desires there Himself for us to desire, lol. He is so loving, that He will always give us a desire that we are going to love. He knows us better then anyone. We may have "fleshly" desires to have something that He doesn't want us to have for whatever reason, but it is always for our good and betterment. Everything that we desire in life, new home, new car, a Christian mate etc., he puts those desires there.
As an example, say a 5 year old child might want to have a toy that isn't age appropriate. We as parents, because we love them, and have some intelligence, (some of us), know not to give our child that toy. God is no different, and we are His children. He gives us the things that He knows that we need, or would like. Does this make sense, rofl?

Justme · Jan 17, 2004

Hi By His Grace,

God said that in the last days that he would pour out His Spirit on all flesh. I believe this will happen during the tribulation.

God did say that, Joel the pophet told us about it, Luke did a play by play as it happened.
Acts 2:17.

Justme

GodsWatchman · Jan 17, 2004

Justme said:
Hi By His Grace,

God did say that, Joel the pophet told us about it, Luke did a play by play as it happened.
Acts 2:17.

Justme

Acts - the "mini" version. Revelation and soon - the MACRO version. Former rain and LATTER RAIN - Two unfoldings. Two servings.

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