Do Jews Still Waith for a Messiah?

Wills said:

Thanks. That explains why it was needed and how they adjusted their lives in order to obey the Laws.

Regarding what the Lord gave directly, how did the Hebrews and Israelites up till the 1st 2 Davidic Kingdoms manage to satisfy the Lord regarding obeying the statutes and ordinances without the Talmud (which was written much later)?

It would be helpful to know how they lived and obeyed the Laws earlier on without the Talmud.

Which of the OT prophets taught areas of Talmud to help the Jews when needed?

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Was it this thread or another where I explained:



The Talmud is really two "volumes" melded into one. The Talmud was not codified until well after the 70CE Dispersion - but the core of the Talmud existed from the foot of Mt Sinai.



The core of the Talmud is the Mishna. The Mishna has been codified, but for many millennia was passed down by very strict oral recitation. The Mishna, also known as the Oral Traditions/Law, began with Moshe at Mt Sinai and continued through the Dispersion. It is based on the Mishna that all Halakah exist.



So, you see, as long as there has been the Written Law (aka Torah) there has been the Oral Traditions (aka Mishna).



After the Dispersion, because of the persecutions and laws forced on the Jews, there was great risk that the orally passed Mishna would die with the execution of the great Tzadiks of the day and never be passed on - One, R. Judah HaNissi, was wise enough to see this and dedicated his life to writing/codifying the Oral Traditions. After they became codified they were not longer added to - but learned study and new challenges continued. As the Mishna was reviewed, referenced and applied the new decisions and discussions between rabbis over various issues, some discussions happening over centuries, were written and preserved. This is the Gemara. If you ever get a chance to see a real Talmud volume you will notice the center of each page is two columns of text, surrounded in a border of several inches by other text. The center is the Mishna of a particularly topic, the text around is the Gemara on that Text.



Shalom

Henaynei said:

Was it this thread or another where I explained:



The Talmud is really two "volumes" melded into one. The Talmud was not codified until well after the 70CE Dispersion - but the core of the Talmud existed from the foot of Mt Sinai.



The core of the Talmud is the Mishna. The Mishna has been codified, but for many millennia was passed down by very strict oral recitation. The Mishna, also known as the Oral Traditions/Law, began with Moshe at Mt Sinai and continued through the Dispersion. It is based on the Mishna that all Halakah exist.



So, you see, as long as there has been the Written Law (aka Torah) there has been the Oral Traditions (aka Mishna).



After the Dispersion, because of the persecutions and laws forced on the Jews, there was great risk that the orally passed Mishna would die with the execution of the great Tzadiks of the day and never be passed on - One, R. Judah HaNissi, was wise enough to see this and dedicated his life to writing/codifying the Oral Traditions. After they became codified they were not longer added to - but learned study and new challenges continued. As the Mishna was reviewed, referenced and applied the new decisions and discussions between rabbis over various issues, some discussions happening over centuries, were written and preserved. This is the Gemara. If you ever get a chance to see a real Talmud volume you will notice the center of each page is two columns of text, surrounded in a border of several inches by other text. The center is the Mishna of a particularly topic, the text around is the Gemara on that Text.



Shalom

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Appreciated. I may have repeated a query regarding the further explanation of the Laws but it is clear

that right after they were given, they had to be properly applied in the context of the changing life

and civilizations of the Jews. Difficulties like computer programming on the sabbath would crop up MUCH
later.......smile.



To sum up, could you briefly touch on how the Talmud teaches about cleansing of sins in the proper way?

That to me seems a very critical teaching together with How G-d forgives sins.

How would the Talmud guide a Jew today to seek cleansing of sins as was instructed in the Torah

in the light of the current state of partial dispersion?

Shalom.