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Period. That's it. The end. I can't do this anymore. I've tried to come back to God so hard but i just can't do it. I'm not cut out for it i don't guess. I give up. I'm not going to continue to make my life miserable because I can't live up to some almighty power in the sky's will. I can't do it. I'm done trying. So I guess this is goodbye, since the only places I post are christian only. Thanks for teaching me stuff and have a nice life.
 

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Tsaxgurl317 said:
Period. That's it. The end. I can't do this anymore. I've tried to come back to God so hard but i just can't do it. I'm not cut out for it i don't guess. I give up. I'm not going to continue to make my life miserable because I can't live up to some almighty power in the sky's will. I can't do it. I'm done trying. So I guess this is goodbye, since the only places I post are christian only. Thanks for teaching me stuff and have a nice life.
I want you to try something.....go to the book store and get the book "A Purpose Driven Life" by Rick Warren......read one chapter a day and let's see where you are at the end of the 40 days.....

Praying for you,

Bill
 
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If you don't mind my asking, what have you done to make you feel like have failed in living up to "God's will?" It's impossible for any of us to live up to God's will. That's why Jesus came. OK? We have grace! :) Period. :) There is nothing you can do yourself to make God love you less or more either way. He already does, and its not changing because of anything you say or do, good or bad :) Think of the thing you love most and He loves you millions of times more. I'm dead serious.

I think what you can't live up to is your own ingrained legalism. You have not failed God. He loves you, no questions asked. Just accept the fact that you are accepted by God. Accept his total, unrestrained forgiveness and learn to FORGIVE YOURSELF. Just sit back, take a deep breath, and accept the fact that you are accepted. Jesus died to be with you. He's not going to turn his back on you now because you slipped up doing something. :)

I've never read the Purpose Driven Life (it's probably great) but I know a book that might fit your situation better, in my humble opinion. If you don't mind giving it a chance, it might change your life. It's called the Ragamuffin Gospel by Brennan Manning. I can even buy one and figure out some way to send it to you if you would like.

You are forgiven. You don't have to do ANYTHING to make God love you. Say, believe it, and hold on to it.

I believe your desire to follow Christ is TOTALLY there. You just need to take a different approach in your perspective on life. God loves you AS YOU ARE. You do not have to work like a dog, be perfect, and feel guilty all the time to make Him love you. He loves you right now. For me, that is much better motivation to get better . . . love rather than fear.

One more thing . . . you believe God called you to follow Him at some point in your life, right? Well, then, when He did that, He KNEW what would happen in your life in the future. He KNEW whatever mistakes you would make. And He called you anyway! :) Praise Him! He knew that you would pull through your struggles. You are 15, He has so much for you. Your whole life is in front of you. I'm 18 and SOOOOOOOOO much has happened to me in the just last 3 years. And I really wasn't even a Christian then. There is hope. There are great things in your future.
 
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do you play tenor sax? i was in band in high school. Tsaxgurl . . . I was going to quote some Scripture here and quote some things from that book I mentioned, but I really don't know enough about your situation to give a perfectly appropriate response. I would really love to talk with you. Do you have AIM or MSN messenger or anything else like that?

If you would like me to go ahead and quote that stuff, please, just let me know
 
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so...like i've said before, i made a decision that i no longer wanted to be a christian last September. Since then I've tried to come back to God and leave my worldliness behind. But I can't. I've had a taste of the forbidden fruit and I can't let it go. I want to so bad. But it's got a chain around my neck. I want things to be how they once were. But they never will. I want to be able to serve God out of love, not fear. But I've forgotten what it feels like to love God. I figure if I give up the pressure is off. I don't have to worry about ****ing somoene off. And can live how i want without a major guilt trip at the end. I can't lie about my faith anymore, so i wont be posting here anymore i don't suppose. So I guess this is goodbye, for real this time.
 
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You don't have to abandon God to abandon your guilt. Jesus came so you wouldn't have to worry about feeling guilty, so don't. Forgive yourself. Be free from the burden of spiritual perfectionism. Nobody is perfect. The guilt you are feeling from failing to live up to such high standards is NOT OF GOD.

If I thought that God was a rigid, unforgiving, and unsympathetic God that was sorely disappointed in me everytime I messed up, if I thought God was like that, I WOULDN'T WANT TO FOLLOW HIM EITHER.

But THAT is NOT THE REAL GOD. THE REAL GOD LOVES YOU. HE LOVES YOU HE LOVES YOU HE LOVES YOU HE LOVES YOU HE LOVES HE LOVES YOU.

You CAN be free from worrying about making people mad, and be free from feeling guilty, and be free from the pressure - and still be a Christian. That freedom is an essential part of what being a Christian is all about. I am not lying. It's one of the bedrock principles of the Gospel. Be free! :)
 
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I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it IS the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes . . . for in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from FIRST TO LAST. (Romans 1:16-17).

Therefore no one will be declared righteous in His sight by observing the law (Romans 3:20).

But now a righteousness from God, apart from the law, has been made known . . . This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to ALL who believe. There is no difference, for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified FREELY by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood. (Romans 3:21-25).

(more coming soon)
 
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The law is only a shadow of the good things that ARE coming - not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. If it could, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshippers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. (Hebrews 10:1-2).

In other words, we have all sinned . . . but strict obedience to a standard of perfection can never really make a person perfect or feel better. But better things are coming. Better things came with Christ. Total forgiveness and grace.

God goes on a little while later and tells us: "Let us draw near to God with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled to CLEANSE us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful." (Hebrews 10:22-23).

(more coming still)
 
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Simply put:
The only person I love got hit by a semi 3 weeks ago. He can't talk, he can't respond, he can't do much of anything. I am angry, I am upset and I spend long days crying and crying. I have thought about giving up God... I would be a liar to say that I don't feel like I am being treated unfairly here. I have cried, yelled, pleaded and cried some more.
But I haven't given up on God... because he hasn't given up on me. Yes, he is putting me through a really hard time right now. But whatever decision you make, to leave or give up on God, please remember he won't give up on you. Hopefully you will feel that in the same way that I have been,
God Bless,
Jacob
 
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Hey lass, God isn't a big bully waiting for us to do something right & we'll get a gold star - we don't have to be 'good enough'.

The point is you've got the point! The stage we realise we can't do it, we can't make it on our own, that's where God comes in. Yeh, we have to do our bit in acknowledging to the Lord our need for Him in our weakness & helplessness.

I thank the Lord for your honesty. The fact is we've all screwed up badly & we all need a good kick in the pants but God is merciful, loving, forgiving. He isn't waiting for you to slip up cos we do that anyway & He knows it. But He still waits for you to come back to Him. His nature is such that He wants a relationship with you and the idea that we have to work for it & be angels all the time is not true.

Yes as Christians we should daily acknowledge our sin and guilt and need for a Saviour. That's tough. But we are spotless before Almighty God because of Jesus! The blood of Christ cleanses us from all sin (that's *all* sin, no matter how far we think we've fallen - sin is sin in the eyes of God). WE don't need to carry the guilt because Christ has already done the job.

I've been at the stage you're at, coming to a conclusion that i'm not good enough to hack this Christian malarky. The truth is we are not good enough, sunshine! To realise that is an amazing breakthrough for you although you may feel the opposite. The fact you have a desire to serve God out of love not fear tells me you have the seed of faith - remember faith as small as a mustard seed can move a mountain because God knows you want to do His will.

You don't have to live in guilt. Last year I fell so badly I thought God would never take me back. But He already had taken me back and I didn't know it. He never rejected me in the first place like I thought He would (or should have). I ran from Him in what I did; He didn't run in the opposite direction. He's always waits for us to turn to Him. He isn't an ogre.

I'm scared of this sounding patronising and i'm sorry if it seems that way, I want to try & give you some hope. And to let you know you're not the only one.

I would like to keep in touch with you. I'm not sure how this forum thing works really but let me know somehow if you'd like to keep in touch but if no, that's ok, whatever you're ok with. If I could help somehow, I'd like to. I hope it's not goodbye for you posting here. I'm praying for you either way and will continue to pray for you...

Love in Christ, Garcookie x <><
 
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so...what your saying is i've done what i'm supposed to, i just need to keep going back to god and asking for forgivness? That i'm doing things right? That i'm not a complete failure?

Tsaxgurl:

God does never think of us as complete failures... that is ourself and other persons talking!! Everytime you sincerely asks God to forgive you he does it and FORGETS about what you have done. That is: He is NOT keeping a list and saying... "Oh, now she's done it again for the 31th time!" No he everytime open his arms to you and welcomes you back to him.

God wants to have a relationship with us, his children, and he is sad when we turn our backs on him. But he rejoices EVERY time we turn to him!!

Stop judging yourself to hard. God isn't!!

Prayers,
Megan
 
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aye! you're not a failure, lass, you are highly loved of God. Yes, keep going back to Him for forgiveness but not just forgiveness - mercy, peace and big big love. Do you know how much He loves you? It'll take you an eternity to find out, sister! He's crazy about you. I'm crying now cos He cries over you when you're hurting. And He wants you to turn to Him

You have salvation in Christ no matter what you've done. You don't have to work for it, you already have it. Keep acknowledging your need like you have done here. And ask for His help and wisdom on the next step for you and the steps to follow. For the time being, please look after yourself.

Your going on my buddy list! (whatever that is! i wish I could work this thing right)

:prayer:

Your big sis in Christ, Garcookie xxx <@}}><
 
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Tsaxgurl317 said:
so...like i've said before, i made a decision that i no longer wanted to be a christian last September. Since then I've tried to come back to God and leave my worldliness behind. But I can't. I've had a taste of the forbidden fruit and I can't let it go. I want to so bad. But it's got a chain around my neck. I want things to be how they once were. But they never will. I want to be able to serve God out of love, not fear. But I've forgotten what it feels like to love God. I figure if I give up the pressure is off. I don't have to worry about ****ing somoene off. And can live how i want without a major guilt trip at the end. I can't lie about my faith anymore, so i wont be posting here anymore i don't suppose. So I guess this is goodbye, for real this time.
So by giving up you don't have any more pressure? I can't think of many situations where this works out well. It usually leads to future failure via more giving up in other areas of life, a domino effect. But if you are obstinate in doing this I hope it works out for you.
 
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All, I can say is God never gives up on us, don't give up on Him. All long as you are alive on earth, you have another day to keep pressing towards God. When you sin, just get on your knees with a humble heart, and ask God for forgiveness. He will forgive, you, pick you up, dust you off, and put you back on the straight path and say "This way my child". If you need more strength to avoid the temptations in your life, then ask God for it.
 
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