The Possible Effects of Anti-Evolutionism

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Dissing Darwin

As Texas grapples with the future of biotech, our long-standing hostility toward one of modern science’s founding fathers is about to cost us plenty.

BY ALL ACCOUNTS, CHARLES DARWIN
was quite a nice English gentleman. A former divinity student who had once hoped to become a country parson, the reclusive naturalist was so concerned for his family and friends that he kept his theory of evolution to himself for a couple of decades; he was finally forced by a competitor to reluctantly publish On the Origin of Speciesin 1859. Still, that turned out to be at least 146 years too soon for most Texans, whose animus toward one of the founding fathers of modern science has been a remarkably enduring feature of our cultural and political landscape.

While it would be political suicide in today’s Texas to fling early-twentieth-century prejudices at African Americans, Hispanics, or women, this particular dead white male can still be bashed as blithely as he was eighty years ago. If anything, the vehemence has only amped up across the generations, from Governor Miriam “Ma” Ferguson, who vowed in the twenties that she was “not going to let that kind of rot go into Texas textbooks,” to current House majority leader Tom DeLay, who blamed Darwin for the Columbine massacre (“Our school systems teach the children that they are nothing but glorified apes who are evolutionized out of some primordial soup of mud”). This perennial pique was a fairly cheap indulgence throughout the twentieth century; despite widespread conviction that the age of the earth did not exceed the Biblical six millennia, we always had enough geologists who understood how to find oil in rocks hundreds of millions of years old. But as Texas enters the twenty-first century, dissing Darwin is about to get very expensive.

That’s because the scientific revolution Darwin started in the nineteenth century—transforming biology from the domain of amateur naturalists like himself into a disciplined science probing ever deeper into the mysteries of life—has finally come to fruition. We are leaving behind the digital age and entering the biotechnology era, with the promise and peril of regenerated limbs, cloned replacement organs, and genetic cures. Indeed, George W. Bush’s first major televised address as president concerned “stem cells,” a term that has now entered the everyday lexicon. (Found in days-old human embryos, stem cells are capable of developing into any kind of body tissue and could potentially yield treatments for everything from paralysis to Parkinson’s disease.) Although the president dismayed researchers with his split decision to limit federally funded embryonic stem cell research to several dozen “lines” previously obtained from embryos unused in in vitro fertilization, his cautious approach created an opening for enterprising states. Last November, California voters committed $3 billion to fund largely unrestricted stem cell research over the next decade; not wanting to miss out on what is being called the biotech “gold rush,” a host of governors from Wisconsin to New Jersey have proposed spending hundreds of millions each to compete for biotech businesses and researchers.

Texas isn’t out of the running for the biotech gold. All that oil money built Nobel-laureate-staffed biomedical research complexes at the Texas Medical Center, in Houston, and the University of Texas’s Southwestern Medical Center, in Dallas, and high-tech Austin has become a promising biotech business cluster, where academic researchers can partner with for-profit biotech start-ups. Rick Perry has often sounded like the biotech governor, creating a Governor’s Council on Science and Biotechnology Development and earmarking significant chunks of his $300 million Texas Enterprise Fund, as well as his proposed $300 million Emerging Technology Fund, specifically for biotechnology. But our ability to compete has already become an issue in the preliminary sniping between Perry and Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, who has hinted that she’ll challenge him in next year’s Republican primary. Hutchison recently remarked that Texas would be “left in the dust by California” without a policy to permit embryonic stem cell research, a position that echoes that of the 39,000-member Texas Medical Association. Perry, who also believes that “we can’t afford to be left behind” by California, fired back that he would oppose any taxpayer dollars’ being used on “research that ends a human life.” (The embryo is discarded after the stem cells are removed; however, many more embryos perish in the process of routine in vitro fertilization.)

Even if Perry didn’t oppose the most promising form of stem cell research, Texas would still face big challenges in narrowing the biotech gap with California. Various studies, including the one by Perry’s own biotech council, have uniformly pointed to our serious shortage of both the venture capital and the human capital necessary for the kind of clustering that has made San Diego, Boston, and North Carolina’s Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area the nation’s top biotech business centers (Austin rates twelfth on the list). A study of San Diego’s successful formula observed that a kick-butt cluster requires not only star researchers but also a life-sciences-literate local workforce, from lawyers and investors to lab managers and technicians. But Perry’s council found that Texans don’t know much biology. Our students test below national averages in science achievement, our science curriculum isn’t competitive, and we have a shortage of science teachers. According to the council’s report, little more than a third of Texas students are taught science by teachers “who consider themselves well-prepared in key science disciplines.”

However, the real problem isn’t that Texas’s science teachers can’t teach; it’s that Texas’s teachers can’t adequately teach evolution, thanks to our long legacy of Darwin-bashing. Ma Ferguson really didn’t have to worry about protecting Texas schoolchildren from evolutionist rot: Though the celebrated Scopes “Monkey Trial,” in 1925, widely discredited the Biblical version of natural history, evolution remained a topic too hot for American textbooks until the late fifties, when the Soviet Sputnik revealed a national science gap. By then Darwin’s theory had been rejuvenated by neo-Darwinism as modern geneticists and cellular biologists observed evolution on the molecular level. The state’s schoolchildren, however, didn’t learn much about either Darwinism or neo-Darwinism. During the seventies and eighties, Texas textbook vigilantes like the late Mel Gabler and his wife, Norma, hectored the State Board of Education to include creation science—the Bible-based view that the species were created in their present form within the past 6,000 to 10,000 years—in the biology textbooks. Though teaching creation science was never required (it was finally classified as a religious doctrine in a 1987 Supreme Court ruling), the SBOE sought political cover and didn’t require much in the way of teaching evolution either.

The primitive state of science education in Texas today has been put in national perspective by the Thomas B. Fordham Foundation, the Washington, D.C., educational think tank run by President Ronald Reagan’s assistant secretary of education that is much beloved by conservatives for its sponsorship of charter schools and its excoriation of politically correct textbooks. The Fordham Foundation believes that Darwin’s concept of biological evolution is so fundamental to understanding modern science that it rated all the states according to their curriculum standards for teaching evolution—and often found a strong correlation with their overall effectiveness in teaching science. On the basis of the new, vastly upgraded Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills (TEKS) curriculum implemented in 1998—which is still in effect—Texas got a mediocre C for evolution and another Cfor its science curriculum in general. Not surprisingly, the states that aced evolution, like North Carolina (almost as red and religious as we are) and California, are the leaders in the biotech gold rush.

But Texas’s Darwin haters haven’t settled for mere mediocrity—not while there’s a chance of bringing that C down to Arkansas’ D or Oklahoma’s F. With creation science sidelined by the Supremes, the new look in anti-Darwinism was rolled out during the 2003 SBOE hearings on the adoption of new high school biology textbooks, ones that most teachers felt finally provided an adequate framework for teaching evolution. The latest slam against Darwin is intelligent design theory, which is being promoted with a lot of media savvy by the Seattle-based Discovery Institute. ID doesn’t dispute that evolution occurs but insists that life is too complex at the molecular level to have evolved in Darwin’s process of random natural selection; the only explanation can be “design” by an unnamed “intelligent cause” (wink, wink). ID makes for intriguing theology or philosophy, but as one of its top theoreticians has noted, it has yet to produce any useful science. (Darwin’s theory, as the National Academy of Sciences has noted, “is one of the strongest and most useful scientific theories we have.”)

An idea that goes back as far as Aristotle, ID would make an interesting addition to what Texas students are already required to learn about world religions, though as its ideologues no doubt know, that would immediately take the wind out of its sails. Religious conservatives who now endorse the movement simply because of its opposition to Darwin would soon realize that ID doesn’t support a Biblical history of the universe, and its intelligent designer could be anything from some New Agey spiritual entity to aliens from outer space.

The state’s science community, from Nobel prize winners to high school biology teachers, appealed to the SBOE to stop messing with textbooks, and the board’s 11—4 vote to accept the books opposed by the anti-Darwin faction was hailed as a great victory for modernity in Texas. But what was saved were books that had been written to standards already dumbed down by decades of censorship. Nor did the putative victory mark the end of ID in Texas. It resurfaced just last summer in the state Republican party platform: “The Party supports the objective teaching and equal treatment of scientific strengths and weaknesses of all scientific theories, including Intelligent Design . . .”

At this point, Texas biotech is in dire need of what California has: unequivocal leadership. Our state’s potentates know that we’re barely passing science, but the current efforts to pump up science education—such as Perry’s Master Science Teacher program, intended to mentor new teachers, or the SBOE’s proposal to add another year of science to the three now required—won’t lift our students’ sagging scores if Texas teachers are continually pressured to include old-time religion in the science curriculum. The TEKS science curriculum is due to be revisited beginning in 2007, and the next governor of Texas should make clear that he or she expects that C in evolution to be raised to an A, regardless of the howls of the Darwin haters. And that new (Republican) governor should also powwow with his or her party apparatchiks and explain the facts of life: Texas, like the other mega-states (California, New York, Florida), really is a nation now, with a vast, diverse workforce and the world’s eighth-largest economy. Planks in the platform of a nation-state’s ruling party should be taken seriously; the national Republican party didn’t invite the flight of biotech capital by promising to hamstring the science education of every American kid. For the state party to call for teaching intelligent design as a legitimate scientific theory—something even the anti-Darwinists weren’t demanding at the SBOE hearings—is a childish indulgence that can only discourage biotech venture capital already skittish about doing business in Texas.

On the other hand, Texas voters can always choose a faith-based economy, akin to those of some Middle Eastern countries where clerical challenges to modernity have postponed prosperity but leave most of the faithful sustained by their presumed moral superiority to the technologically superior West. Of course, our nation-state will never fall as far behind the curve as Iran or Pakistan; we still have plenty of ways to make money, even in the sciences, that don’t require embryonic stem cell research or Mr. Darwin’s help. Instead, we’ll just lose our economic edge. The rather spectacular accommodation of piety and prosperity in Texas, where mega-churches with their celebrity pastors and medical centers with their Nobel prize—winning researchers have thrived in concert, will slowly come to an end. Call it a piety tax or the we-hate-Darwin tax, but Texas businesses and taxpayers will pay an ever-increasing hidden levy for the privilege of dissing Darwin. We started the last century as one of the poorest states in the union, and it’s not inconceivable that if this biotech century passes us by, we’ll end it as an economic also-ran once again.



http://www.texasmonthly.com/mag/issues/2005-04-01/ennis.php

Well, this sums it all up. No matter how much people hate evolution, it is a science. There's no question about that. The problem is people don't understand how vital evolution is to biology. Biology just doesn't make any sense with out it.

If kids aren't understanding evolution, chances are good they won't fully understand biology. They may become disinterested in biology which robs the nation of a generation of scientists. Of course, who needs science when you have faith, right?
 

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North Carolina’s Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area the nation’s top biotech business centers
W00t! I'm glad you brought this up. Biotech (along with other high-tech industries) is the future of North Carolina, as more traditional industries like textiles and tobacco are quickly closing shop. From my perspective, creationism isn't just trying to wreck our school systems and make our children ignorant of science, but this nonsense directly threatens our economy, as well.

Not surprisingly, the states that aced evolution, like North Carolina (almost as red and religious as we are) and California, are the leaders in the biotech gold rush.
:cool: We're red, but we're not stupid. Our state knows better than to pluck out its economic eye to satisfy a handful of evolution-deniers.
 
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But Texas’s Darwin haters haven’t settled for mere mediocrity—not while there’s a chance of bringing that C down to Arkansas’ D or Oklahoma’s F.


I live in Oklahoma. The F does not surprise me. The teachers here are openly anti-evolution and roll their eyes when forced to teach it, telling the students they "don't have to believe it".
 
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BY ALL ACCOUNTS, CHARLES DARWIN</B> was quite a nice English gentleman. A former divinity student who had once hoped to become a country parson, the reclusive naturalist was so concerned for his family and friends that he kept his theory of evolution to himself for a couple of decades; he was finally forced by a competitor to reluctantly publish On the Origin of Speciesin 1859. Still, that turned out to be at least 146 years too soon for most Texans, whose animus toward one of the founding fathers of modern science has been a remarkably enduring feature of our cultural and political landscape.

http://www.texasmonthly.com/mag/issues/2005-04-01/ennis.php

Thus disbelief crept over me at a very slow rate, but was at last complete. The rate was so slow that I felt no distress, and have never since doubted even for a second that my conclusion was correct. I can indeed hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to be true; for if so the plain language of the text seems to show that the men who do not believe, and this would include my Father, Brother and almost all of my friends, will be everlasting punished.
And this is a damnable doctrine. Autobiography of Charles Darwin (1958) p.87

Last night Dicey and Litchfield were talking about J. Stuart Mill's never expressing his religious convictions, as he was urged to do so by his father. Both agreed strongly that if he had done so, he would never have influenced the present age in the manner in which he has done. His books would not have been text books at Oxford, to take a weaker instance. Lyell is most firmly convinced that he has shaken the faith in the Deluge far more efficiently by never having said a word against the Bible, than if he had acted otherwise.
Letter to George Darwin October 1873

I have lately read Morley's Life of Voltaire and he insists strongly that direct attacks on Christianity (even when written with the wonderful force and vigor of Voltaire) produce little permanent effect: real good seems only to follow the slow and silent side attacks. Letter to George Darwin October 1873

Many years ago I was strongly advised by a friend never to introduce anything about religion in my works, if I wished to advance science in England; and this led me not to consider the mutual bearings of the two subjects. Had I foreseen how much more liberal the world would become, I should perhaps have acted differently. Cambridge Manuscripts cited by Gertrude Himmelfarb in Darwin and the Darwinian Revolution (1967) p.383
 
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bevets said:
Thus disbelief crept over me at a very slow rate, but was at last complete. The rate was so slow that I felt no distress, and have never since doubted even for a second that my conclusion was correct. I can indeed hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to be true; for if so the plain language of the text seems to show that the men who do not believe, and this would include my Father, Brother and almost all of my friends, will be everlasting punished.
And this is a damnable doctrine. Autobiography of Charles Darwin (1958) p.87

Last night Dicey and Litchfield were talking about J. Stuart Mill's never expressing his religious convictions, as he was urged to do so by his father. Both agreed strongly that if he had done so, he would never have influenced the present age in the manner in which he has done. His books would not have been text books at Oxford, to take a weaker instance. Lyell is most firmly convinced that he has shaken the faith in the Deluge far more efficiently by never having said a word against the Bible, than if he had acted otherwise.
Letter to George Darwin October 1873

I have lately read Morley's Life of Voltaire and he insists strongly that direct attacks on Christianity (even when written with the wonderful force and vigor of Voltaire) produce little permanent effect: real good seems only to follow the slow and silent side attacks. Letter to George Darwin October 1873

Many years ago I was strongly advised by a friend never to introduce anything about religion in my works, if I wished to advance science in England; and this led me not to consider the mutual bearings of the two subjects. Had I foreseen how much more liberal the world would become, I should perhaps have acted differently. Cambridge Manuscripts cited by Gertrude Himmelfarb in Darwin and the Darwinian Revolution (1967) p.383
As usual, a bunch of out-of-context quotes from bevets that contribute absolutely nothing to the thread.
 
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I guess reading and comprehension is also down in the school system. John, did you read the article? Without evolution, biology doesn't make sense. If you want to have a strong biotech industry, you need people that understand biology. Good luck finding good biologist if every kid thinks evolution teaches that we came from monkeys and that it's purely random.

That's a problem Texas is running into. They want to have a strong biotech industry, but they're lacking the human capital. Of course, all of this post won't matter because you'll ignore it and write some nonsense.
 
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random_guy said:
Of course, all of this post won't matter because you'll ignore it and write some nonsense.

What is nonsense is that suggestion that you can not have good biology without evolution. It is just another lie that evos have come up with. It is just another devise that they use to try and intimidate people into accepting their cockamamie nonsense.

I am not really against evolution, and I am not really against evolutionists, but I am sick to the point of wanting to vomit over having to listen to their lies.
 
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So let's take a look at animals without evolution through the literal bible. For some reason, humans, monkeys, and guinea pigs can not make their own vitamin C. They all have a defects in the same gene, which renders it into a pseudogene. Humans and monkeys pseudogene have more in common than the guinea pig's pseudogene.

According to a common designer theory, well, he felt like making them that way. What information does it tell us? Nothing.

Now have fun explaining the relationship between animals (heck, even classifying them) without evolution.

EDIT: Fixed wording.
 
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Thus disbelief crept over me at a very slow rate, but was at last complete.

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Had I foreseen how much more liberal the world would become, I should perhaps have acted differently.
Cambridge Manuscripts cited by Gertrude Himmelfarb in Darwin and the Darwinian Revolution (1967) p.383

And here is why ad homs don't work in science folks! What if we knew as a fact that Charles Darwin was a Satan worshiper or Satan himself with a dark and sinnister agenda. What then?

Does that prove the theory wrong? Does that make the evidence go away? Does that in any mean prove that we are not part of the great ape family?

What if Pythagoras was also a no good, Christian (lets assume!!!) basher, with homosexual tendencies (quite possible) and a paganist with a dark and sinnister agenda. Even if we knew this to be real would that mean that A^2+B^2 /= G^2?
 
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JohnR7 said:
What is nonsense is that suggestion that you can not have good biology without evolution. It is just another lie that evos have come up with. It is just another devise that they use to try and intimidate people into accepting their cockamamie nonsense.
That'll be news to the world's biologists. But hey, you know far more about biology than they do, right?

I am not really against evolution, and I am not really against evolutionists, but I am sick to the point of wanting to vomit over having to listen to their lies.[/QUOTE]
Except that you ARE against evolution - or rather, your own twisted version of it. You constantly berate it (or your version of it) and show in the process that you don't understand the first thing about it.

And I've yet to see you come up with a single 'lie'.
 
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In his commentary on the fifth day of Creation, St. John Chrysostom tells us:

"The blessed Moses, instructed by the Spirit of God, teaches us with such detail...so that we may clearly know both the order and the way of creation of each thing. If God had not been concerned for our salvation and guided the tongue of the Prophet, it would have been sufficient to say that God created the heaven, and the earth, and the sea, and the living creatures, without indicating either the order of the days, or what was created earlier and what later...But he distinguishes so clearly both the order of creation and the number of days, and instructs us about everything with great condescension, in order that we, coming to know the whole truth, would no longer heed the false teachings of those who speak of everything according to their own reasonings, but might comprehend the unutterable power of God."

The truth as to our origin, the origin of the species, and the universe does not come from our own reasonings, nor the reasonings of philosophers, nor the reasonings of science but the revealed truth of God.
This is why God gave Moses the Hexaemeron, so that we may know the truth.
Just as St. John the Evangelist was a prophet of what is to come in the end of time, Moses was a prophet of what occurred in the beginning.

May peace be upon thee and with thy spirit.
 
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Other than blasphemy & lies with deception boarding on delusion, just what has evolution contributed?

You've been more caustic than normal lately. What happened, get mugged by an evolutionist or something?

Anyway, there are threads here and here with practical applications of evolutionary biology.
 
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This Texas Monthly article is all the more salient in light of an even occuring in downtown Dallas this weekend. The National Science Teachers Association is holding it's annual convention there (for some reason...), and the Dallas Morning News ran an article about teachers catching heat for teaching science.

I'd post a link but the DMN requires registration. The gist of the article covers the usual issues such as being harassed by parents, or being forced to use code words like "change over time." The writer of the article, Alexandra Witze, must also spend time discussing evolution on-line as she devotes several paragraphs to the "just a theory" PRATT.

It was a balanced, well presented article (the DMN one) that, didn't leave me any more hopeful for the state of science education in my state - TAKS standards including evolution or not...

I'm sure all I have to do is wait to see the Letters to the Editor come rolling in.
 
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random_guy said:
BY ALL ACCOUNTS, CHARLES DARWIN was quite a nice English gentleman. A former divinity student who had once hoped to become a country parson, the reclusive naturalist was so concerned for his family and friends that he kept his theory of evolution to himself for a couple of decades; he was finally forced by a competitor to reluctantly publish On the Origin of Speciesin 1859. Still, that turned out to be at least 146 years too soon for most Texans, whose animus toward one of the founding fathers of modern science has been a remarkably enduring feature of our cultural and political landscape.

bevets said:
Thus disbelief crept over me at a very slow rate, but was at last complete. The rate was so slow that I felt no distress, and have never since doubted even for a second that my conclusion was correct. I can indeed hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to be true; for if so the plain language of the text seems to show that the men who do not believe, and this would include my Father, Brother and almost all of my friends, will be everlasting punished.
And this is a damnable doctrine. Autobiography of Charles Darwin (1958) p.87

Last night Dicey and Litchfield were talking about J. Stuart Mill's never expressing his religious convictions, as he was urged to do so by his father. Both agreed strongly that if he had done so, he would never have influenced the present age in the manner in which he has done. His books would not have been text books at Oxford, to take a weaker instance. Lyell is most firmly convinced that he has shaken the faith in the Deluge far more efficiently by never having said a word against the Bible, than if he had acted otherwise. Letter to George Darwin October 1873

I have lately read Morley's Life of Voltaire and he insists strongly that direct attacks on Christianity (even when written with the wonderful force and vigor of Voltaire) produce little permanent effect: real good seems only to follow the slow and silent side attacks. Letter to George Darwin October 1873

Many years ago I was strongly advised by a friend never to introduce anything about religion in my works, if I wished to advance science in England; and this led me not to consider the mutual bearings of the two subjects. Had I foreseen how much more liberal the world would become, I should perhaps have acted differently. Cambridge Manuscripts cited by Gertrude Himmelfarb in Darwin and the Darwinian Revolution (1967) p.383

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And here is why ad homs don't work in science folks! What if we knew as a fact that Charles Darwin was a Satan worshiper or Satan himself with a dark and sinnister agenda. What then?

My point was not 'Evolutionism is false because Darwin was a 'Satan worshiper'' I was responding to the OP characterization that Darwin was a divinity student and the implication that evolutionism has nothing to do with attacks on Christianity. Darwin's motives are relevant. OJ Simpson may tell you 'everything you want to know' about where he was the night Nicole died, but it is still reasonable to suspect that he has motives for leaving out important details.


Scientists sometimes deceive themselves into thinking that philosophical ideas are only, at best, decorations or parasitic commentaries on the hard, objective triumphs of science, and that they themselves are immune to the confusions that philosophers devote their lives to dissolving. But there is no such thing as philosophy-free science; there is only science whose philosophical baggage is taken on board without examination. ~ Daniel Dennett

I suspect there is a lot of intellectual dishonesty on this issue. Consider the following fantasy: the National Academy of Sciences publishes a position paper on science and religion stating that modern science leads directly to atheism. What would happen to its funding? To any federal funding of science? Every member of the Congress of the United States of America, even the two current members who are unaffiliated with any organized religion, profess to be deeply religious. I suspect that scientific leaders tread very warily on the issue of the religious implications of science for fear of jeopardizing the funding for scientific research. And I think that many scientist feel some sympathy with the need for moral education and recognize the role that religion plays in this endeavor. These rationalizations are politic but intellectually dishonest. ~ William Provine
 
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I live in Oklahoma. The F does not surprise me. The teachers here are openly anti-evolution and roll their eyes when forced to teach it, telling the students they "don't have to believe it".

I'm from South Carolina origninally. I think it was the NAS that gave the state's public schools an A for its evolution curriculum. One state senator was so annoyed by this education excellence, he tried unsuccessfully to have evolution removed from the curriculum entirely.

I really don't care what religious fundamentalists believe, but when they start trying to vomit their anti-evolution, anti-science filth on students I get really ticked off. Not only is it a giant lie, it undermines future economic security.
 
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