Are Northerners just different?

jukesk9

Dixie Whistlin' Papist
Feb 7, 2002
4,046
83
52
Arkansas
Visit site
✟13,223.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
The country split 140 years ago when the North levied taxes so high it hurt the South's ability to export goods and make a profit thus paving the way to secession. I'm not sure we've overcome our differences (Southerners who display Confederate Flags are still labeled racists even though that's not the case). Southerners are against gun control, high taxes, abortion and telling others what to do or think. We're not for big govenment or wasteful spending. We're against hand out programs. And we're for keeping God in school. The vast majority in the South are conservative.

Our views are important. It's hard to win a presidential election without winning the South. Howard Dean realizes this and made a stupid remark about courting Southern white males with Confederate flags on their pickups. He said the Democrats couldn't win without their vote. Then he went on to say the Rebel flag is a racist symbol. So here you have an uniformed person labeling us racist. We're still stereotyped. But, he realizes he can't win without the South.
 
  • Like
Reactions: LovingMother
Upvote 0

LovingMother

Abuse Survivor
Oct 30, 2003
436
117
49
Visit site
✟1,191.00
Faith
Christian
jukesk9 said:
The country split 140 years ago when the North levied taxes so high it hurt the South's ability to export goods and make a profit thus paving the way to secession. I'm not sure we've overcome our differences (Southerners who display Confederate Flags are still labeled racists even though that's not the case). Southerners are against gun control, high taxes, abortion and telling others what to do or think. We're not for big govenment or wasteful spending. We're against hand out programs. And we're for keeping God in school. The vast majority in the South are conservative.

Our views are important. It's hard to win a presidential election without winning the South. Howard Dean realizes this and made a stupid remark about courting Southern white males with Confederate flags on their pickups. He said the Democrats couldn't win without their vote. Then he went on to say the Rebel flag is a racist symbol. So here you have an uniformed person labeling us racist. We're still stereotyped. But, he realizes he can't win without the South.
Well said. Thank you!
 
Upvote 0
J

johnhusswannabe

Guest
i am a northerner who now lives outside atlanta. i do believe the north is more liberal than the south, but i believe it is changing. the country's population is moving south. Florida and Georgia's population has grown. Most of the north which includes New York state, Illinois ,Michigan and Pennsyvania's population has stagnated. Georgia has the second highest percentage of homosexuals in the country. A statistic that is not too characteristic of a conservative society. Crime also is higher in the south. New Orleans and Atlanta run 1 and 2 respectively for highest crime rates in the nation.
 
Upvote 0

HumbleMan

Ragamuffin
Dec 2, 2003
5,258
273
Mississippi by way of Texas
✟17,870.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
It's true that the population is shifting to the south (both east and west). Before I say anything that may get me flamed, I'd like to say that I have family in Massachusetts and ancestors that fought alongside the original GW. THat being said.......

In the early/mid 1800's, the south had more fertile farmland, more pleasant weather, and greater opportunities to be self sufficient. We were producing goods at a lower cost and better quality than the northern states. When the northern economy starting going south (pun intended), the politicians who were desperate to keep their electorate happy, started making an issue of how unfair the south was, what with cheap/free labor in the slaves and indentured servitude. Part of their strategy was to promote anything that would be opposite the south's interests. And since the south was predominantly white protestant with a very strong sense of religion and morality, the northern politicians started promoting ideas and agendas that were designed to enflame southern attitudes.
Unfortunately, that mindset has seemed to become engrained in the culture of the north, at least publicly.
I honestly don't believe that the average, everyday northerner is any more liberal/conservative than any average, everyday southerner. I thinik it is the people/politicians who make the best newscopy get the spotlight and that is what the majority of people base their opinions on.
 
Upvote 0

DixieBelle

Veteran
Oct 21, 2003
915
61
Visit site
✟8,880.00
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Private
First of all, "Amen" to all Jukesk had to say!

"All we ask is to be let alone" (President Jefferson Davis)....to me that is the biggest of all differences in the Southern and Northern cultures. The northerners as a whole seem to be dedicated to changing the South to what they feel is acceptable (i.e., adopt their ways), while most Southerners don't feel the need to try to pressure other parts of the country to becoming just like us...I think for the most part we feel its their right to be different if they so choose. All we want is to be left alone, but right now the differences between north and south are having negative impacts on the South as true Southerners of all races are becoming outnumbered and even unwelcome in their own native land due to all the "foreigners" (Yankees and other non-southerners, as well as illegal immigrants) that have been flooding the Southland. I don't have so much a problem with people moving here, but if you do, please become one of us...embrace our culture (yes, it is different than other parts of the country!) and learn to love it as we do...if you find this impossible, either respect the fact that this is OUR home and you are in the minority here or leave...but please don't try to change us!
 
Upvote 0

jukesk9

Dixie Whistlin' Papist
Feb 7, 2002
4,046
83
52
Arkansas
Visit site
✟13,223.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Well thank you LovingMother and DixieBelle for the compliments.

Georgia has the second highest percentage of homosexuals in the country. A statistic that is not too characteristic of a conservative society
And we're to take your word on this or do you have a link to your source to back this up?

Crime also is higher in the south. New Orleans and Atlanta run 1 and 2 respectively for highest crime rates in the nation.
Again, do you have a source for this info?
 
Upvote 0

orangetang22

Follower of Christ
Nov 29, 2003
61
1
43
Dover, DE
✟15,192.00
Faith
Christian
Cool I like what you said Jukesk9, I was born and raised in NC and now i'm in the military at Dover AFB DE. I experianced a BIG culture shock when i went to DE, not to say that DE is the heart of the north or anything, but to me it's part of the northern states.
I think it has alot to do with what some people call the "bible belt".
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

jukesk9

Dixie Whistlin' Papist
Feb 7, 2002
4,046
83
52
Arkansas
Visit site
✟13,223.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
johnhusswannabe said:
Jukesk9, no I do not have a link to back it up, but I am in law enforcement and I do read the newspaper and watch the news here in Atlanta. The local radio talk shows were using Atlanta's crime rate(2nd highest)as a topic.
Without sources to refer to, I can not give credence to your points. I am sorry. God bless.
 
Upvote 0
Rule No. 1 - No "Flaming"
.:Forum Rule 1:. Rule No. 1 - No "Flaming"

1) You will not post any messages that harass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest. This will include misquoting another member out of context. You may discuss another member's beliefs but there will be no personal attacks on the member himself or herself. This includes implied accusations that another member is not a Christian.
 
Upvote 0

Debbi

Well-Known Member
Sep 23, 2003
1,701
4
Alabama
Visit site
✟1,863.00
Faith
Protestant
On t.v. the south is made to look like a bunch of country hicks, red necks, and fanatics. I live in a county that is dry (no alcohol). Also, in a state that there is very little gambling or lottery either. I went to Louisianna and got cultural shock with all the gambling casinos and beer joints. (We got out of LA as fast as we could). So, not all the south is such a big Bible belt. Ever heard of the t.v. show "The Beverly Hillbillies"? They were suppose to be from the Ozarks but they used a place from Alabama on the show, Bug Tussle as a joke I guess. I'm still glad I live in Alabama, though.
 
Upvote 0

Debbi

Well-Known Member
Sep 23, 2003
1,701
4
Alabama
Visit site
✟1,863.00
Faith
Protestant
We are getting overrun by Hispanics not Blacks, what is the % of the population now that are Hispanics. At least most Blacks can speak English. We didn't have to learn their language. Most stuff now has Spanish on it. I'm not prejudice, my neighbors are Hispanics. Never thought it would happen where we live.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums
J

johnhusswannabe

Guest
jukesk9 said:
Without sources to refer to, I can not give credence to your points. I am sorry. God bless.
jukesk9. so am I liar? I didn't actually hear it on the local news or read it in the paper or listen to the local radio talk shows talk about it? I didn't make it up! As a fellow Christian why can't you believe me? I am in law enforcement so I do pay attention to it. I am sure if you went to the library you could find it on micro fiche for the Atlanta Constitution. Again, I did not make it up. God bless!
 
Upvote 0

AlabamaMan

A writer changing the world one word at a time.
Jan 7, 2003
11,587
675
Tijuana, Mexico
Visit site
✟45,139.00
Country
Mexico
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Divorced
I think there are differences, major differences in some things. I totally agree with Jukesk9 too. He hit it right on the head. I for one am tired of being stereotyped as a typical white southern male. I also agree with DixieBell, don't try to change us. We leave you alone you leave us alone. I think there is still a major split embedded in our attitudes in this country. I like the south because it has a great way of life, as far as having a high crime rate, I can see Atlanta and New Orleans being high on the list but no higher than any other major city in the country. The crime rate in my area seems relatively low. The south has some great people.
 
Upvote 0
Rule No. 1 - No "Flaming"
.:Forum Rule 1:. Rule No. 1 - No "Flaming"

1) You will not post any messages that harass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest. This will include misquoting another member out of context. You may discuss another member's beliefs but there will be no personal attacks on the member himself or herself. This includes implied accusations that another member is not a Christian.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums