Bible Trivia

Jeopardy BlackWing is correct about their being 14 apostles.

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Hi Cougan,
you mean , in you opinion he is correct don`t you

I happen to disagree with you.

cougan , read my Quote at the bottom and see how I think that your statment is totaly flawed.

what authority do you claim???? the same authority as me I bet. jesus and the bible ,right

do you see what I mean


that question you directed at me , I am a little at the motive so I think I will put it to the rest of the room as it doesn`t matter who answers it because we all see things a little diffrently , wouldn`t you agree cougan??

ok cool it both of you ok?

this is a casual bible trivia discussion, please let's keep it that way

Hey Jepordy,

You did'nt even tell me if my answer to your question was right.

You need to consider the qualifications of being an apostles. They had to be an actual eye witness of Jesus. See Acts 1:21-22.

I hope that you will answer my question on what the faith is. If I got your question right that you used to try and show that their are still apostles today then answer my question as it will show that their are not apostles today.

It really saddens me that you have come to this conclusion in your quote. Wheather you relize it or not you are proclaiming that whatever a person feels like the bible says to them is truth no matter what conclusion they may come to. This is a very dangerous view to have and to share with others. Yes a lot of people have different opinions on what the word of God had to say. This is because of a lack of study. One major problem that we have is that we put on our doctrinal glasses and force ourselves to interpret the bible that way especially if we have been raised up in the church. If someone tells you that unicorns are real all your life you will find it difficult to accept any different view even though the do not exist. When we take off our doctrinal glasses and begin searching the bible for what it really says then we can all come in agreement on what the truth is. Now there are certain subjects in the bible that are not crystal clear and will be left up for interpation and will have differing views. But, these subjects that arent crystal clear will not effect your salvation. The bible is very clear when it comes to topics that effect your salvation. We need to always to continue to grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus. We can know the truth (John 8:32) I beleive the bible has many things to say against your quote here are just a few. Rom 10:1-3 2Tim 4:1-4 Col 2:8 Gods word speaks on unity. Eph 4:4-6 Rom 12:16 1Cor 1:10 Phi. 3:16

I hope that I dont offend you and I also hope that you will consider what I have presented spelling errors and all.

hi cougan ,
no offence taken, don`t be saddened for me cougan because the chaos is better than believing a the lie like I used too.



They say it`s darkest before the dawn and out of chaos comes order.
I seem to be going through this???

To come from a lie to the truth you must enter through chaos, I recon.

Once a lie is found out , confusion enters in.
truth is revieled but not believed.
Chaos creates an illusion that the lie could be the truth and that the truth could be a lie.

We must gain order from chaos and establish the truth and reject the lie. This is a process from a lie into chaos to the truth that brings order.

I think you might be in error with were you think I am at because of my quote though.

Wheather you relize it or not you are proclaiming that whatever a person feels like the bible says to them is truth no matter what conclusion they may come to.

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please, be honest atleast cougan?? it is you that is making this proclomation and trying to put words in my mouth, of a sort that I did not say.

do you do this with the scriptures too??
how could you pick up on what the apostles meant if you got me so out of wake from what I wrote???

if you want to twist what I have said I am shore you can get anything you want from it but this is what I realy mean as the Quote makes extreamly clear;

"There are so many well educated bible christians that all disagree on what the bible says"
(I am just as biblicaly educated as those that study hard and don`t follow church doctrine but the bible)

so

this means to me that the church does not have the truth or possably even the bible because the truth is singalar and doesn`t contradict.

my quote obviously is not saying that anything you believe the bible to say is the truth but it says the opposite.

It is claiming that there are to many christians that speak as thought they are the final word of truth because they think they understand the bible better than anyone else????

they speak with an authority that holds no power at all except the power of deception.

Like what you said to me,

Jeopardy BlackWing is correct about their being 14 apostles.

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as though you have some sort of authority to think you are wright automaticly?

this saught of attitude is rife in christianity and it is obvious to the world that christians constantly do this with no awearness of there foolish presumptions about what they insist the truth is.

I think the doctronal glassess are worn by those that have a belief and insist that they are wright and everyone should listen to them as the final word.

there the kind of christians that never ever look anything up in the bible accept to try to prove there doctrine is the true one.

now , lets get back on track and stick to the thread hey

i will answer your other Questions in another post so we can leave this behind and go on with the subject at hand.

If you have anything else to say on it PM me.

You didn’t even tell me if my answer to your question was right.

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Sorry cougan,
I thought it was like a chain were you answer and then carry on with another Question and I figured that it was obvious that you were right.

Secondly,

You need to consider the qualifications of being apostles. They had to be an actual eyewitness of Jesus. See Acts 1:21-22.

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I see those scriptures a little diffrent to that but Wouldn’t this mean that the apostle Paul couldn’t be an apostle because he wasn’t an eyewitness on the death and resurrection of Jesus????

And if Paul is included because Jesus is alive and well and appeared to Paul and commissioned him as an apostle and that makes him an eyewitness of the resurrection, then couldn’t Jesus still do that at any point or even in every generation???

Many have claimed to have spoken to Jesus personally and since he is alive and well, that is very possible and so couldn’t he commission more eyewitnesses to his resurrection then as apostles???

Now heres you a question Jeopardy. In Eph 4:13 what is "the unity of the faith"?

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lets see, is it a trick question or am I alowed to have my own mind

I believe "the faith" is believing in god through jesus and also the promise of the resurection as jesus was resurected.

we all coming into the unity of that faith would be then obvious I think.

don`t forget cougan that it goes on to say ,"and the knowledge of the son of god as well".

so, my Question is;
what is the diffrence between the the unity of that faith and the knowledge of the son of god?


ohh , ohh , ohh , can I ask another question???

what is the diffrence between an apostle , a prophet , a teacher , an evangilist, and a pastor???

Since this thread was meant to be for triva questions and not a discussion on bibical interpertation I will cease the discussion with Jepordy here and continue it in Private.

But my question still stands unanswered. Whose food (manna) was it that fell from heaven that feed the children of Isreal? The answer is found in Psalms. If you are still having trouble you can ask me which chapter.

ok which chapter?

the answer is angels food.

the manna was the food of the angels???

angels eat??? HAY????

are they physical being


blackwing,
I think it is in psalms 78.

what is the diffrence between an apostle , a prophet , a teacher , an evangilist, and a pastor???

very good blackhawk. Im impressed you found the answer.

Heres my answer Jeopardy
short version Apostles were the personal abasdors of christ the original ones to start the church. The prophets were inspired to make known the will of God after it had been revealed to them thourgh the apostles. The evangelists went out into destitute fields to make know the word of God. Pastors which is the samething as a elder was to watch over the church and teachers were to teach those that were already christians.

Long version
Eph. 4:11 -- The term "apostles" here should probably be used in its strictest sense to refer to the twelve and the apostle Paul. Those were apostles who had been commissioned by Christ Himself (Matt. 10:2-4). They had seen the risen Lord (Acts 1:21-22; 22:14-15; 26:16; 1 Cor. 15:5-8), thus were witnesses of His resurrection. The Lord had promised to send the Holy Spirit to the apostles to teach them all things and bring all things to their remembrance , to testify of Him , and to guide them into all truth (John 14:26; 15:26; 16:13). Their authority was supreme (Matt. 18:18; Gal. 1:8-9); they left no successors. There are no living apostles today, but the apostles still "sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel" (Matt. 19:28; i.e., "spiritual" Israel, cf. Gal. 6:16). It is true that there were others called "apostles" (Acts 14:14; Heb. 3:1), but the twelve were singled out, in a special sense, and for a special function, to serve as the personal ambassadors of Christ (2 Cor. 5:20) and physical witnesses of His incarnation, crucifixion, and resurrection (Acts 10:41; 1 John 1:1-3).

The "prophets" referred to here are the New Testament prophets, such as Silas, Agabus, and others (Acts 11:27-28; 13:1; 15:32). The church is "built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets..." (Eph. 2:20). The mystery of God's grace was "revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit" (Eph. 3:5). The prophets spoke and acted under the extraordinary Divine impulse and inspiration of God.

The "evangelists" were likewise given miraculous gifts. Philip the evangelist (Acts 21:8) received miraculous power through the laying on of the apostles' hands (Acts 6:5-6). Timothy is likewise called an evangelist (2 Tim. 4:5) upon whom some gift had been bestowed by the hands of Paul (2 Tim. 1:6).

Pastors are also called "overseers" (Acts 20:28), "bishops" (Titus 1:7), "elders" (Acts 20:17), and "shepherds" (1 Pet. 5:4). They were given power even to lay hands on the sick and restore their health (cf. James 5:13-15).

"The absence of the article the before teachers in the Greek text, plus the fact that it is connected with pastors by a different conjunction than is used to separate the other offices, seems to indicate that the pastors and teachers are the same office viewed from two different aspects, namely from the teaching and shepherding aspects."

very good blackhawk. Im impressed you found the answer.

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was this a genuine mistake or are you just sarcastic by nature cougan

short version Apostles were the personal abasdors of christ the original ones to start the church. The prophets were inspired to make known the will of God after it had been revealed to them thourgh the apostles. The evangelists went out into destitute fields to make know the word of God. Pastors which is the samething as a elder was to watch over the church and teachers were to teach those that were already christians.

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yea , I agree mostly cougan.

the only diffrence would be the explination of the apostle.
I believe the apostles established the churchs and oversaw them. i.e Paul to the gentiles or john to the 7 churchs of asia.


questian???

aree angels spirit or flesh???

if they are spirit , how come they eat food???

cougan,
you are shore about this 14 apostle thing are you???

you seemed very adament that barnabas was not an apostle but I knew he was.

Acts 14
14 Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,


that settles that hay

I didnt make a mistake that I am aware if and no I wasnt being a smarty pants. I was serious when I stated that I was impressed. I was impressed because every person that I have pointed that passage out to never noticed it was there. I think its pretty neat how you discover little things like that which are only mentioned 1 time. When I get some time Im going to open a new thread about apostles where you can try and slap me around if that makes you happy. I want to cease the discussion on apostles in this TRIVA thread. I will say that Acts 14:14 does not prove that Barnabas was an apostle like Peter was. I have already stated that the bible uses the word apostle (or one sent) in a offical manner refering to the 14 and also in a general sense. I will not go into lots of detail here just wait for the new thread. Let me give you 1 example. In Heb 3:1 It says Jesus is an apostle. Now are you going to claim that the word apostle here is refering to Jesus as one of the apostles are does it fit based on context that it is used in a general sense as one sent. cross ref. John 17:18.
Ponder on this a be ready to answer this question in the new thread.

Ok

OK cougan,
that sounds like a good idea.

I think I am starting to get were your coming from.
this will be interesting.

see ya there cougan

Isn't it 2...he was from 1 wasn't he..man..I need to study up the facts more, I've been slacking on my OT readings.

David was king first in Hebron (1Chron 11) until he conquered Jerusalem then he ruled from there.

"question"

what was the name of the king who freed the jews from babylon???

and why did he free them???