Originally posted by Catchup
Was it not bad enough that you tried to humiliate me with your attempt at humor? What is this all about? I Have led a life of devotion to God. I have not had to struggle with any of these sins. You do not know me but you have accused and found me guilty. There was nothing Satanic about my experiences. That is in your mind...not mine.
I was told of a loving God, who only wished for us to know him and be good. There was one proof given that seemed only to come from God. Many people witnessed. I have had some extraordinary beautiful, and extremely interesting experiences.I was also given other tangible proofs of things that religion has long questioned. Nothing was ever a figment of my imagination. But all of this information and experiences, although good...did not mention Christ. I am very firm in my beliefs. I searched the message and found a sort of loop hole. For within the words was a sentence that religion was good for us and that we should hold our beliefs to the highest of convictions. There it was. I found my way out. I no longer needed to struggle. For the true Christian knows that Christ is the only way, truth and light.
I will not know till this life is done, whether I have failed God or passed a test. I know though that if it were God, he will find another way. I have free will but he has control of the destiny of this world. If it was Satan he failed miserably. Because everything that happened only brought me closer to God and firmer in my beliefs. I now know by fact what I already known by Faith. There is a God and a dimension to our life that we are unable to see or understand. Even when given a glimpse, we can still not comprehend. There is much more and much less to this world and our life than we know.
Please Davo, think before you post.
I will not post anymore on this subject. I would not want to be the catalyst that causes you to act in an un-Christ-like manner.
LOVE
Originally posted by Catchup
Where do you get your understanding of the Bible? Is this part of your teachings from your Church or do you conceive it by yourself?
Originally posted by TheUnknown
The greatest thing that Satan could ever do, is convince man that he doesn't exist.
I believe that he has no power over us, unless we give it too him, but that in no way means that he is defeated. Not by a long shot. He can still get you
Originally posted by RKF
You preterest guys are nuts. You don't seem to realize what your saying is not anywhere near the truth. Jesus defeated death hell and the grave but the final judgement on satan is coming but it hasn't happened yet.
Originally posted by TheUnknown
He can still get you, no matter how much you think he can't. Or how much you believe in Christ.
Originally posted by TheUnknown
He knows your weaknesses. You're in a false sense of security and the sooner you realise that, the better off you'll be. Resisting Satan is a constant battle. One that will last for the rest of you life. It's up to you whether you will let him win or not.
Originally posted by davo
When Jesus came in judgment/deliverance in AD70 Satan along with death (and others) were thrown into the LOF.
Sure people dabble in all soughts of evil things -and pay the price for it, however you don't need the devil or demons for that -the unregenerate heart of man IS fully capable of such evil (Jer 17:9)
Originally posted by TheUnknown If Satan was defeated, then why isn't there peace in the world?.
Originally posted by TheUnknown Why are we still tempted to do the things which we know aren't right?
Originally posted by TheUnknown But telling ppl that he's been defeated gives them a false sense of hope.
Originally posted by GW
The greatest thing that the Church can ever do is convince man that satan is defeated and under the feet of Christ and the Church now and forever.
Futurists say this is a revamped world -a new physical re-creation. They are wrong!
Originally posted by Ephesian
I am not sure how AD70 becomes the completion on Biblical Prophecy.
Revelation was written in 66-68AD under the sixth Caesar (Rev 17:10) who was Nero and during the jewish persecution of the Church (Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9). The Temple was still standing (Rev 11:2). Jerusalem, the Great City, was under siege (Rev 11:8 and 11:13). That was the siege led by the Romans and its Ten imperial provinces (Rev 17:16-18).Originally posted by Ephesian
Revelations was written in AD90 and it was written with the future in mind, not twenty years ago.
Originally posted by TheUnknown
If Satan was defeated, then why isn't there peace in the world?. Why are religions still against each other?
The Gospel of the Kingdom really is that hopeful and all powerful.Originally posted by TheUnknown
If ya want to stick you head in the sand then that's fine. But telling ppl that he's been defeated gives them a false sense of hope.
Originally posted by Catchup
I was curious about one question that was not addressed. Where did you arrive at the teaching that Satan has already been thrown into the Lake of Fire? I believe that time is to come with the judgement of the world...at the "End of Times". So do you also believe that the world has been judged...or was it cancelled?
At any rate, I am sure you do not convey the common belief held by most Christian churches...if any.
What denomination teaches the messages you are posting?
I know my Bible well. I can see that the verses, you quote to back up your stance, are out of context. You also ignore verses that do not agree with you. I do not have the time to relate to all your misconceptions.
So I am asking again... Can I dismiss this as merely individuals who have decided to make the Bible say what they wish to hear....Or can you tell me...
What denomination of Christianity do you belong?
LOVE
Originally posted by Catchup
I will make it easy on you. I will give you the correct answer....
NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gday
LOVE
Originally posted by GW
Jesus promised his apostles:
Matthew 24:33-34
"So, YOU too [the apostles], when YOU see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place."
Matthew 23:36
"Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation"
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The "YOU" all throughout Matthew 24 is the apostles to whom Jesus is speaking. Grammatically and contextually that is the "YOU." In all the following verses the "YOU" is the apostles to whom Jesus is speaking: 24:2, 4, 6, 9, 15, 20, 23, 25, 26, 33, 34. We know just before Jesus starts into the passage of Matthew 24 he says:Originally posted by Ephesian
However, when you read verse 33 in light of verse 32 it doesn't necessarily mean that at all. Verse 32 basically says by looking at the signs you can tell when summer is near,Even so you too means in likewise manner they could tell by looking at the signs they would know.
New English Bible:
"I tell you this: the present generation will live to see it all."
Today's English Version:
"Remember this! All these things will happen before the people now living have all died."
Moffatt's Translation:
"I tell you truly, the present generation will not pass away, till all this happens."
Contemporary English Version:
I can promise you that some of the people of this generation will still be alive when all this happens.
Weymouth's Translation:
"I tell you in solemn truth that the present generation will certainly not pass away until all this has taken place."
King James:
"Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."