victoryword
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Hi iktca
I'm sure dida won't mine my responding to some things in your posts (after all, he sometimes responds to posts meant for me).
And is it not right for this daughter of Abraham, who has been in the power of Satan for eighteen years, to be made free on the Sabbath? (Luke 13:16; BBE)
Now compare that to Gal. 3 which teaches that faith in Christ makes us children of Abraham. We have a RIGHT to healing because we are connected to Christ. The King James version says "Ought not this woman ..." That word "ought" according to the KJV Greek Lexicon has an interesting definition. One of it meanings is, "necessity established by the counsel and decree of God, especially by that purpose of his which relates to the salvation of men by the intervention of Christ and which is disclosed in the Old Testament prophecies"
To me, the implication is that he heritage as a child of Abraham entitles her to healing. So does ours. Its not that we demand our rights before God. Jesus died so that we can have this. He isn't holding anything back. We have to remind Satan of our rights because he is the one who wants to keep us in bondage as he did the poor woman in Luke 13:16. Knowing that I have rights gives me a bolder faith.
To all those who did so take him, however, he gave the right of becoming children of God--that is, to those who had faith in his name: (John 1:12; BBE)
Scripture even shows that becoming a child of God is a "right" that sinners can take advantage of. Too bad so many of them don't. It could be that they here from some pulpits that they have been predestined to hell. For the most part, some are simply not aware of this right because we are not out there telling them. Nevertheless, Jesus purchased this right for them. God gives "rights" to His children and to sinners. Isn't that amazing? It would be hard to believe if Scripture did not son plainly state it.
I'm sure dida won't mine my responding to some things in your posts (after all, he sometimes responds to posts meant for me).
While there is a "gift of [special] faith" mentioned in 1 Cor. 12 and indeed God does give each BELIEVER a measure of faith (Rom. 12), faith is exercised volitionally by every person. Jesus need not commend people for faith if they do not exercise it. That is why God often rebukes people for their UNBELIEF. If God is responsible for whether people act on faith or not then there would be no need for Him to commend those who do and rebuke those who don't and then feel stagnated when they do not exercise it (see Mark 6:5, 6).iktca said:didaskalos,
All Christian gatherings are a worship to God in essence. Though we are not meeting face to face, still our gathering is a worship. Knowing that you are of the same mind, I pray that we give glory to the Father through our discussions.
[size=+1]Question 1 : Healing [/size]
God wants us to live healthy. And Jesus wants to heal us. When a believer makes a confession of faith that Jesus was sent by God, Jesus gives healing to the believer.
Bible says Jesus healed the sick. But Jesus said oftentimes, "Your faith made you well." Our Lord is truly humble!
I hear a silent conversation between Jesus and the cured. The cured says, "Thank you, Lord for healing me." Jesus says, "No, my child. Your faith made you well." The cured says, "No, Lord. Your grace made me well." Jesus says, "No, it was your faith that moved the heart of my Father and He sent the healing." The cured says, "Yes, Lord. I praise the Father for healing me."
Who cured the sick? Jesus did. Jesus is a humble God. He considers His healing power as nothing and praises the faith of the sick. By praising his faith, He is praising the Father who gave him the faith.
You are correct that no one deserves healing, but we certainly have a legal right to it because Jesus purchased it. First of all, Jesus Himself said that healing is the children's bread (Matt. 15:21-28). He then states that those who are children of Abraham have a right to be healed:iktca said:Bible says salvation is grace. No one deserves it. Every faith falls short of salvation. Since no one deserves it, salvation is grace. Healing is also grace. No one deserves it. No faith deserves healing. Every faith falls short of healing.
And is it not right for this daughter of Abraham, who has been in the power of Satan for eighteen years, to be made free on the Sabbath? (Luke 13:16; BBE)
Now compare that to Gal. 3 which teaches that faith in Christ makes us children of Abraham. We have a RIGHT to healing because we are connected to Christ. The King James version says "Ought not this woman ..." That word "ought" according to the KJV Greek Lexicon has an interesting definition. One of it meanings is, "necessity established by the counsel and decree of God, especially by that purpose of his which relates to the salvation of men by the intervention of Christ and which is disclosed in the Old Testament prophecies"
To me, the implication is that he heritage as a child of Abraham entitles her to healing. So does ours. Its not that we demand our rights before God. Jesus died so that we can have this. He isn't holding anything back. We have to remind Satan of our rights because he is the one who wants to keep us in bondage as he did the poor woman in Luke 13:16. Knowing that I have rights gives me a bolder faith.
Sorry if I cannot agree with you here but the statement would be TRUE, not FALSE as you say. Here is why:iktca said:Some might say, Because Jesus received stripes for us, now we have the legal right for healing. It sounds so logical. But its equivalent to saying, Because of the cross, we now have the legal right to have salvation. We all know its a false statement.
didaskalos,
Sometimes we miss to recognize that healing is grace and make the mistake of becoming legalistic. If we have the humility of Jesus, we will only say, Lord, it is your grace that healed us. We praise you and the Father.
We all need to seek the humility of Jesus and be restored to his grace. I wonder if some parts of the Word of Faith movement need the same.
You are in WOF. What is your observation?
To all those who did so take him, however, he gave the right of becoming children of God--that is, to those who had faith in his name: (John 1:12; BBE)
Scripture even shows that becoming a child of God is a "right" that sinners can take advantage of. Too bad so many of them don't. It could be that they here from some pulpits that they have been predestined to hell. For the most part, some are simply not aware of this right because we are not out there telling them. Nevertheless, Jesus purchased this right for them. God gives "rights" to His children and to sinners. Isn't that amazing? It would be hard to believe if Scripture did not son plainly state it.
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