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lol, I think all drummers like to play loud, I do, even though I play guitar and bass most of the time, I still like to bang on the drums pretty hard, there are different kinds of drum sticks that you can buy that are quieter, I'm not sure what there called, but looking at a local music store that has a wide selection of drum sticks will help, there are different kinds of brushes out there that are meant more for worship type drumming, other than that, just try to get him to calm down with the normal drum sticks, it's hard for him, trust me, I tried playing for my youth group, and my best friend, who is also a worship leader, as am I, on our youth praise team, kept telling me that he knew I was trying, but that I was still too loud, so, yeah, just try to get him to calm down, it takes a lot for a drummer to calm down, but it is doable, and see about a wide selection of sticks, I've never had to go looking for sticks, as I don't own a drum set of my own, but I know there are different things that you can buy that will help, a LOT. Hope this helps. God Bless-
Nathan
 
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chrisforshort said:
Soooo, I have this drummer that loves to play...loud. What are some ways I can quiet him down. Anyone? No? We don't have $$$ for one of those plastic drummer cage thingys, so is there special drumsticks I can buy for the guy?
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Put sheet music in front of him...;)

Seriously tho, there are rods (alternatives to sticks) for quieter playing. Such as Pro Marks cool rods
 
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Ooh, cool rods. I want them. I meana my drummer. I wish they made cool picks. You know, the ones with a luscious smooth sound and a crisp kick. Yeah. Thanks for ya help. Know any convincing lines to tone down his tyle? Cause I have a feeling he's gonna swing twice as hard with whisper sticks.
 
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You could always tell him that he's ruining the music, and overpowering everything else. The song isn't a drum solo, and drums are not a solo instrument (unless you're doing some sort of drum solo, heh).

There are brushes, but I guess everyone but jazz drummers hates those.

Is this just music, or is it worship music?
 
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Gads. That's the only fun thing about trap sets ... :angel:

You could tell him that his playing makes or breaks the song, and that how he's currently playing isn't making it. Say soemthing about the power the drummer holds over the music, and ask him to plese choose wisely in his volume. :angel:
 
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katieb2005 said:
we got an electronic drum set...i didnt like it as well at first but the sound guy can control the volume
ARG WRONG ANSWER:mad:
You need a percussionist, not a drummer. I am a percussionist as the ministry leader of Heart song says. A drummer doesnt know when to slow down or speed up, a drummer doesnt know anything about dynamics. A drummer doesnt know what goes well with a song. A drummer doesnt know when to drop out when he or she needs to.
A percussionist knows all these tricks. A percussionist can read the music and play it. A percussionist can feel the music. (what I do) A percussionist can be loud quiet or anywhere in between to mix.

So i would say change the drummer to someone that has matured into a percussionist or train him to be a percussionist.


PS. im not trying to hold over anyone that I'm better then anyone. I'm just stating what I believe a drummer needs to be, A PERCUSSIONIST.
 
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[You need a percussionist, not a drummer.]

That is very, very wrong. Percussionists are for symphonys and effects. But i understand why you have that concern. Many drummers say they can play drums and dont take lessons. I believe that taking lessons is the only way to learn how to play drums. If they dont take lessons they need to, if they do take lessons, they will learn dymnamics, ect., the thing is, there is not much change in dynamics in a song that uses a drum set. The loudness will go away after time and the guitar,ect. will be overpowering. The best thing to do is mike the drumset. But remember, without the drummer you cant perform well, the drummer is the backbone of the band aka. YOU NEED A DRUMMER (i know, sometimes it is annoying, but you have to deal with it) and also drums should not be overpowering, but they should be clearly heard over everything else.
 
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72_Chev_Truck said:
ARG WRONG ANSWER:mad:
You need a percussionist, not a drummer. I am a percussionist as the ministry leader of Heart song says. A drummer doesnt know when to slow down or speed up, a drummer doesnt know anything about dynamics. A drummer doesnt know what goes well with a song. A drummer doesnt know when to drop out when he or she needs to.
A percussionist knows all these tricks. A percussionist can read the music and play it. A percussionist can feel the music. (what I do) A percussionist can be loud quiet or anywhere in between to mix.

So i would say change the drummer to someone that has matured into a percussionist or train him to be a percussionist.


PS. im not trying to hold over anyone that I'm better then anyone. I'm just stating what I believe a drummer needs to be, A PERCUSSIONIST.
Yes, there's definitely a distinction. drummer != percussionist :p

I've performed with symhony orchestras and the worship band at my church. The point is you need someone who can listen well and play cohesively in an ensemble, whether it be a symphony orchestra or a small band. The performance must be tasteful and appropriate. Percussionists have training and experience in this area.

Percussionists are not just for symphony orchestras. A drummer would be out of place there, but a percussionist would function in either capacity..and well. Now, there are extremes; some percussionists concentrate on certain areas of orchestral performance, while many are experienced in various areas of percussion, including performing in a band.

It comes down to the degree of musicality in the performer.
 
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drummer_for_christ said:
[You need a percussionist, not a drummer.]

That is very, very wrong. Percussionists are for symphonys and effects. But i understand why you have that concern. Many drummers say they can play drums and dont take lessons. I believe that taking lessons is the only way to learn how to play drums. If they dont take lessons they need to, if they do take lessons, they will learn dymnamics, ect., the thing is, there is not much change in dynamics in a song that uses a drum set. The loudness will go away after time and the guitar,ect. will be overpowering. The best thing to do is mike the drumset. But remember, without the drummer you cant perform well, the drummer is the backbone of the band aka. YOU NEED A DRUMMER (i know, sometimes it is annoying, but you have to deal with it) and also drums should not be overpowering, but they should be clearly heard over everything else.
How do you figure its wrong? Im sorry but I think your wrong. Just taking lessons or teaching yourself makes you a drummer. but only that and sometimes not even a good one. A percussionist is seasoned in all areas of musical unfluence, they know when to be loud when to be quiet, they know when something can be added and when it cant. A PERCUSSIONIST KNOWS DYNAMICS, where as a drummer mostly just bangs as loud as they can because they think its "cool" Im sorry but this is the way it is, a percussionist IS the way to go. A percussionist can play in a full orchestra, a 3 piece wind ensemble, or in a full out rock band. Different venues require different ammounts of sound to match up with the PA equipment. Miking the drumset is never required in a small venue because if its too loud the sound guy in the back of the room CANT TURN IT DOWN ANYMORE.

I agree with dotcomguy on this, he knows as I do.
 
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Have you ever recorded any of your rehearsals? Listening to each other and critiquing each other can be very beneficial. Perhaps he doesn't realize how bad it sounds from where he sits, but if he's any kind of musician, a recording that demonstrates how off-balance his playing is and everyone agreeing that it's too loud should help him realize he needs to change the way he plays. Sitting and just listening to a recording is a different perspective than one has during a performance. You can pick out things you didn't notice before and help each other to improve.
 
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