Write your Bishop and ask him how he interpretes these very important words from the Holy Father concerning the EucharistKennySe said:There's gotta be something we can do. Prayer, of course.
But couldn't we contact our Bishops to give "a talking to" the Richmond Bishop at some convention?
Can. 908 Catholic priests are forbidden to concelebrate the Eucharist with priests or ministers of Churches or ecclesial communities which are not in full communion with the catholic Church.
No offence, but perhaps you could offer an idea for an alternative solution?karen_UK said:That is frankly a mockery of ecumenicism.
But I'm even sadder to see the responses of Christians here. Every member (except Lambslove) has condemned the attendance of non-Catholics at the service. Not a single person has suggested a positive alternative.
The suggestion I made in my post was the best I could come up with, sorry.ukok said:No offence, but perhaps you could offer an idea for an alternative solution?
I know I can't.
No need to be sorry, your initial suggestions of making non Catholics welcome and providing the opportunity for catechesis were perfectly good ideas in my HO, I was more thinking of the OP and how that particular situation might be resolved. I don't think i made myself clear, i apologise.karen_UK said:The suggestion I made in my post was the best I could come up with, sorry.
karen_UK said:That is frankly a mockery of ecumenicism.
But I'm even sadder to see the responses of Christians here. Every member (except Lambslove) has condemned the attendance of non-Catholics at the service. Not a single person has suggested a positive alternative.
karen_UK said:This isn't an ideal situation. My only thought to reach towards true unity would be that non-Catholics are made very welcome at the Mass / service, and perhaps catechesis arranged if they wish to participate in the sacrament of Holy Communion.
karen_UK said:Having two altars, and basing the decision of who gets which eucharist on denomination is a blatant display of segregation between Christians, within the church.
karen_UK said:My experience is that non-Catholic Christians who receive wise teaching and instruction, convert to Catholicism when the historical and societal taboos of the faith have been accurately dispelled.
for true unity
That's a lovely way to be Jeffferey, and I admire your passion for the faithJeffreyLloyd said:It felt like a life time to me.
Fiskare said:...
d) There are a lot of diverse opinions regarding the Mass and the correct way to celebrate it in Rome these days, you gotta expect confusion and controversy. For example, my hyper-conservative Roman friends say that the mass celebrated here may not be a mass anyway, because it isn't in the Tridentine Latin, the Novus Ordo being false,or ambiguous at best. Others say the Novus Ordo is valid, but having female altar servers ("serviettes") is not. Others say altar rails are wrong and communion should only be taken on the tongue etc etc etc...get the picture?
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Fiskare said:This thread amuses me on so many levels.
Don't get upset folks, I'm trying to be light hearted, but-
a) It's funny to see conservative Catholics gripe about such incidents yet overlook the practices of the Holy Father at Assisi, in India, and other places and various other ecumenical activites, where he indulged in allowing Bhuddas on the altar, was blessed and anointed by Hindu admirers of Shiva, or was partaking in indigenous Australian ceremonies and so forth. The funny thing is that some people think the heirarchy will bend to complaints regarding ecumenical practice. I wouldn't be so sure, since the worst kind of ecumenism started from the top.
b) What if the Roman altar only offered communion in one kind? Would the Catholics desiring the full sacrament sneak over to the Anglican altar for the wine? What would be worse, is if the Anglicans ruined their own communion by copying the Roman practice of communion in one kind.
Herein lies the crisis. Those in teaching authority may or may not agree with you in your understanding of the matter anyway, so you may or may not get what you want out of the Church. It reminds of the SSPX crowd, theologically they are very well informed Catholics, and before Vatican II, they would have been the "real" Catholics, but now that the magisterium has moved forward, they are left behind, and are now the outcasts.Shelb5 said:The evangelization of the Church needs to be spruced up in that diocese so the faithful can vote with their feet. They cant vote with their feet if they do not know their own beliefs.
I agree. It's very important to teach kids. I have a friend who was a Jehovah's Witness for decades and he said that the easiest people to convert were Catholics who didn't know their faith, even easier than agnostics and atheists. I'm glad that seems to be changing.See what not educating Catholics correctly in the faith can do? We have a duty to raise our kids to know the truth inside and out so they would never stand for a mass like this.
...was blessed and anointed by Hindu admirers of Shiva, or was partaking in indigenous Australian ceremonies and so forth.
b) What if the Roman altar only offered communion in one kind? Would the Catholics desiring the full sacrament sneak over to the Anglican altar for the wine? What would be worse, is if the Anglicans ruined their own communion by copying the Roman practice of communion in one kind.
...get the picture?