I'm not going to be specific, just in general. You might pick the genre you wish to discuss or make a general comment. There was a lively discussion about this a few months back. I'd like to hear what people think. Thanks!
Are the roots of Pop Music Evil?
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The term "pop music" is too broad of a category, it can account for too many things.
I wouldn't doubt that the roots of pop music are evil. Even though I listen to it, I'll admit that the roots of modern rock are evil as well. But that doesn't mean that all rock or all pop is evil.
I wouldn't doubt that the roots of pop music are evil. Even though I listen to it, I'll admit that the roots of modern rock are evil as well. But that doesn't mean that all rock or all pop is evil.
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InnerPhyre
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Well, I took a class on the history of rock music, and the first guy to really play rock was a blues guitarist named Robert Johnson, who insisted to his last dying day that the devil taught him to play guitar.....draw your own conclusions.
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Yes, and when you have other major influences of modern rock writing songs like "Sympathy for the Devil" and "Highway to Hell," it really makes you wonder.InnerPhyre said:
However, although the roots may be evil, I can't say that all rock is evil.
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InnerPhyre
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Well, as I currently have U2 playing on Itunes as I type this, I must agreeDreamTheater said:
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Didn't you know that all the money they claim to give to help fight AIDS is really going towards drug trafficing in South America?InnerPhyre said:Well, as I currently have U2 playing on Itunes as I type this, I must agree
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DreamTheater said:Didn't you know that all the money they claim to give to help fight AIDS is really going towards drug trafficing in South America?
The scandal!!!
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Nah..music types are neitehr goor nor evil, what a certain artist does may be. But saying that heavy meatal is evil or that rock is evil is a bit close minded in my opinion.
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But the roots of heavy metal (or any genre) are just a couple artists. If all or most of those artists promote an evil message, would it make sense to conclude that the roots of heavy metal are evil?Asimis said:
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DreamTheater said:
I am and have been a heavy metal fan since I was 8 and now I am 24 and I while there are artists who sing about Satanism and violence , this is hardly the case and most of the paranoia towards the genre is simply bad press and shock value.
Are you aware that there are Christian bands who play Heavy Metal too? And not just any type of heavy metal but the really hard and loud type.
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Actually Robert Johnson never claimed to have sold his soul to the devil; that was a rumor that grew up mostly after his death (although it might have been fueled by some of his song titles like "crossroad blues" and "hellhound on my trail").
Even if the "roots" of rock music were evil (which sounds supicious to me, sort of like saying that the "roots" of writing were pagan therefore Christians cannot write), I don't think that means that no rock music can ever be good.
Even if the "roots" of rock music were evil (which sounds supicious to me, sort of like saying that the "roots" of writing were pagan therefore Christians cannot write), I don't think that means that no rock music can ever be good.
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Cosmic Charlie
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This discussion is sort of weird.
Rock and Roll was based on delta bluses and southern gospel.
Jazz grew out of southern and mountain folk interpretions of classical music
Punk is movement for simplitiy brought about by the increasing complexity of Rock during the '70's.
Lyrics aside rap is is just a rythemic movement that is going basically nowhere, as a genre. (hopefully going the way of disco which itself was a latin based dance genre orginating in gay dance clubs in the early '70).
But historical roots aside, how does one judge a system of music to be inherently evil ? It seem counter to Christ's statment that call evil comes from within.
Rock and Roll was based on delta bluses and southern gospel.
Jazz grew out of southern and mountain folk interpretions of classical music
Punk is movement for simplitiy brought about by the increasing complexity of Rock during the '70's.
Lyrics aside rap is is just a rythemic movement that is going basically nowhere, as a genre. (hopefully going the way of disco which itself was a latin based dance genre orginating in gay dance clubs in the early '70).
But historical roots aside, how does one judge a system of music to be inherently evil ? It seem counter to Christ's statment that call evil comes from within.
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Cosmic Charlie said:
Yeap, the music type itself is not evil per se but what people seek to do with it is what becomes either good or evil.
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That is why I specified my statement to modern rock. Of course you can just keep tracing roots back and back until you end up with a caveman banging two rocks together. No, I wouldn't say that the roots of rock are evil, because that can just go back way too far. However, I think modern rock's roots can be classified as evil. You are correct in your statement that evil comes from within, but when you have the evil within outcoming as the final product of music, I think it's safe to say that the music has evil influences.Cosmic Charlie said:
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Cosmic Charlie
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Can you give me some example as a point of common reference please.DreamTheater said:
Are we talking INXS, B-52's, U2, The Cure, Big Audio Dynamite, The Trills, Cake, Wall of Voodoo, What ?
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