Crazy superstitions about Southern people

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crazy4Christ007 said:
howdy yall...im back! wow you gots yourselfes funny stories! Yall all made me laugh! I know how yalls feel!
ACK!! no "y'all"s!!! I'm southern but not THAT southern! It drives me up the wall.
 
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NaasPreacher said:
Funny thing is, most of the Southerners were from the province of Ulster, most of which is now part of the country of Northern Ireland. :)
Didn't know that, but it makes sense, because most Southern American people of Irish ancestry are protestant and not Catholic. I'm sure there were conversions for the purpose of assimilation...my dad told me about some of our ancestors the other day that were Catholic and I couldn't believe it almost. Not that I have a problem with Catholics, but it's just that my ENTIRE family is protestant (except for my wife & I. we converted to Orthodoxy.)
 
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*looks around because she just found her way to the thread*...Hi y'all. Yes, there are a lot of myths. There are even ones going on in my state. Like people who live in the delta are about as smart as a load of bricks... Funny...I never thought of myself as a load of bricks. :idea: :D
 
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The irish here in the south are part of why we split from y'all during the war of northern agression. The Ulstermen wanted (and still want) to be separate from the Republic of Ireland and be part of Great Britain. They are (and were) believers in state's rights and influenced the thinking here.
 
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Howdy Elfwithgrace & all Irish (Suthurners & Northurners),

Yeah, I think many stereotypes (though not as much superstitions as they are misconceptions or over characterizations), go back to origins in class struggles between aristocratic city dwellers of ‘high’ society verses the common agrarian peasants or plebeians thought of as an underclass. A struggle that seems as old as time itself, but is richly flavored with great dramatic reality when considering the historical American South and the English / Irish struggles.

Stereotypes often have a core of truthfulness, but can get stretched to ridiculous caricatures. Most of the American South (or the Appalachian remnants of such) was originally colonized with common Protestant Irish stock and criminals (or more properly, debtors) who represented a disenfranchised society. The Republic of Ireland (and its split with England) is representative of this same tradition, even though it religiously remains predominantly Roman Catholic (which represents a disenfranchised British ‘class’).

The American South Irish were mostly the rich Protestant Irish throw offs from their upper class society. As such they were (and often still are) considered ignorant and backward. Oddly enough to some, but of no surprise to these keepers of good honest salt-of-the-earth wisdom, they actually (much as the Jews of Jesus’ day, amidst the power and moral decadence of the Rome Empire) are representative of a moral foundation of society that is often disenfranchised and taken advantage of, but is truthfully the only salient reason and justification for society. Far from being ignorant, they represent a spiritual selfless wisdom and earthy hard working know-how that is often lost to the wiles of ‘higher’ education amidst some historically aristocratic elite who lack a use for personal egalitarianism.

This is why the American South is at once known as the ‘Bible Belt’, noted for their genteel hospitality, their stubborn independent spirit, and their ‘common’ & charming wisdom packaged as good natured humor with a drawl; but also caricatured as ignorant and unworldly backward.
 
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I wouldn't know about the Irish stuff, my relatives came from England and Germany. I watched the movie last night, "The Miracle Worker" about Helen Keller. It irritates me when movie people get other people to play southern and try faking the accent. The cast was from Canada, I think. And they didn't even mention that Helen Keller was from Tuscubia, Alabama. Does it bother anybody else that they pick people who try to fake a Southern accent instead of getting some people who actually from the South to play Southern people? I mean, really, there are a million southerners, why pick Canadians either? And the Keller home didn't even look like the real one in Tuscumbia, AL. Some t.v. shows that are set in the south, not sure about some of thier accents either. I know that Andy Griffith was from the south, but don't know about the cast from "In the Heat of the Night". Know of any fake southerners on t.v.? Oh, and on "The Waltons", the only one with a Virginia accent was the narrator, Earl Hamner.
 
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