Wll G.W.Bush - Will he widen the rift within the American people?

alonesoldier said:

President Clinton also created pay increases, I have no clue tonight if the Republican Congress was responsible for the military cuts during his administration though. Being that they were all ways complaning about it I would think not.

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Remember the GOP contract with America and the pledge of budget control? I do believe they controlled Congress there late? Maybe wrong.

If the goal is to balance the budget we know which one is the largest.

Just asking to think things through here, sometimes talking points have reasons behind them that are seldom mentioned.

Hey H2, i don't think the Republicans own enough of the government yet, could you please ask your friends to keep comparing the President to Hitler and Saddam, that strategy seems to be working well for us conservatives.

alonesoldier said:

Hey H2, i don't think the Republicans own enough of the government yet, could you please ask your friends to keep comparing the President to Hitler and Saddam, that strategy seems to be working well for us conservatives.

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I don't think......oh...never mind.

Good luck there a.s., I'll say a prayer for you in your service.

hehe, thanks doctorine

alonesoldier said:

Hey H2, i don't think the Republicans own enough of the government yet, could you please ask your friends to keep comparing the President to Hitler and Saddam, that strategy seems to be working well for us conservatives.

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Seems you didn't finish my post.

ME said:

just saying that the argument holds true for some very undesirable characters

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Try again...

h2

And I bring up your study for one, its only one source and for two the military is alot bigger than enlisted new recruites. Officers are not enlisted. And Non-Commisioned officers who are enlisted are college educated.

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Despite the fact that it is only one source, it is still a source that needs to be addressed. And for what it's worth, I'm sure this is simply one source of many.

Regarding your question of enlisting, I was unaware that officers are not listed. Regardless, I think that it is only relevant to talk about the foot soldiers who are in the front line, and who are more likely to die in combat. Those who hold lower ranks. Is it not true that those who hold lower ranks are more likely to be poor than the rest of the military population?

Umm.. Officers are frontline soldiers mate. And in the military as in life, the lower rank you have the less money you make.... After you get promoted you make more money. But I would say that people who enter the military might be poor because they are 18 at the time????

I beleive that Bush will defiinately widen the rift in the american people. He is a very devisive person. For the majority of people, it is either that you love him or hate him. That is very sad for the leader our nation. I feel that he has very storng convictions which can be good but he is too stubborn and arrogant. That mixture is dangerous.

Dangerous, I agree with that about of Bush.
Reader Nilus

Umm.. Officers are frontline soldiers mate. And in the military as in life, the lower rank you have the less money you make.... After you get promoted you make more money. But I would say that people who enter the military might be poor because they are 18 at the time????

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The point is not that they are poor, but that their parents are poor and that they come from underpriveleged backgrounds. The ultimate question concerns where soldiers from lower ranks come from when they start out in the military. Would it not be true to say that these people come from poor family backgrounds?

Rochir said:

I think, despite all the nice words he may sa, the ideological rift that is tearing the US American people apart, wll widen. Bush only be taking his rich friends and allies into consideration, leaving the working poor and the middle class in the dust. He will only cater to the christian right, ignoring and suppressing any moderate views on many social matters.

These next 4 years with G.W.BUsh will not unite he people - it wll dvide them!

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Is this a wish list or something you read in a fortune cookie?

I understand that there are some who wish huge failures, at any cost, just to win political favor. But, fortune cookies are off the table.

If he follows his old methods and mannerisms, he will manage to create a larger divide then the already grand canyon-sized chasm division that he (yes I realize that some of his opponents have also helped deepen this separation) has forged in this nation.

Hopefully he is willing to meet people in the middle, and admit any mistakes he makes, or people will never change their perception of him.

Vylo said:

If he follows his old methods and mannerisms, he will manage to create a larger divide then the already grand canyon-sized chasm division that he (yes I realize that some of his opponents have also helped deepen this separation) has forged in this nation.

Hopefully he is willing to meet people in the middle, and admit any mistakes he makes, or people will never change their perception of him.

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The question becomes, is it a President that makes the divides, or is this the way the country is? I think it's the latter. By the looks of the election results, 59 million agree with Bush, 55 million don't. And let's not forget the 2000 elections - where the margines were much smaller. Does this mean we are to blame Clinton for that great divide? After all, the 2000 elections were held during the 8th year of the Clinton Administration. Of course not. That would be absurd.

The president, any president, simplly does not have that kind of power over people. Quite the opposite - it is The People of the United States of America who have spoken on 2 Nov. The president is a reflection of the people who put him in office, not the other way around.

The president is a reflection of those who voted for him. One of the presidents tasks is to heal the divides, To move forward together in a manner which makes all of us closer. This needs to be done with compassion and love, respect and understanding.

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The president is a reflection of those who voted for him. One of the presidents tasks is to heal the divides, To move forward together in a manner which makes all of us closer. This needs to be done with compassion and love, respect and understanding.

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I couldn't agree with you more.

Bush recently emphasized that sentiment - put out his hands to all Americans - in his acceptance speech the other day. Kerry get's my respect as well. He also spoke of unity and healing. Both have spoken on the unity of America. They both speak of reaching common-grounds. I agree with them both.

But sadly, there are many who are so dug-in and militant in their ideology, Bush's and Kerry's words fall on deaf ears. The concept of a unified nation is beyond their grasp. And as any self-fulfilling prophecy, they continue to beat the drum of things which do divide the nation. Many of these dividers make a lot of money for their efforts.

Bush has no more control over this division, any more than Clinton had control over the division during his presidency. The country had the most votes in this election. 51% to 49% is not a huge margine, but the 2000 elections margines were much smaller than that.

BTW - welcome, let it shine.