How does it fit together?

MooTipping · Oct 26, 2004

I'm not sure if I have the story correct, but how does this all fit together?:

So God created the Earth and all...and he made Adam and Eve. So there's 2 people. They have kids, Cane and Abel, and Abel died. So, how is it possible the Cane went to get a wife? There's no one else on Earth? Where did she come from?! Appear from no where?

Crispie · Oct 26, 2004

Adam and Eve had daughters, and from there there children married and had children. It wasnt considered Incest nor was it against the law of God back then because for one reason our genetics werent messed up back then. Thats one of the main reasons why God made incest a sin later on, he was looking out for our health.

gusto5 · Oct 26, 2004

Yes. the reason able and caIn are brought out because of what happened. Adam and Eve had other kiddies

MooTipping · Oct 26, 2004

Oh, they did? I didn't know that. But didn't the Earth get washed away from the big flood and Noah had to re populate the earth again?

Bushido216 · Oct 26, 2004

*Cough*Genesis isn't literal.*/Cough*.

MooTipping · Oct 26, 2004

of course it's not litteral

Allister · Oct 26, 2004

Sorry to disapoint you but creationism is not true. there is no scientific evidence to support it. Human beings evolved from other species and we were not put here by God. Incest is harmful to life and it would have been equally harmful whenever Adam and Eve were supposed to have existed....can anyone tell me that by the way....when did Adam and Eve existed?

aeonian_mist · Oct 26, 2004

Allister said:
...it would have been equally harmful whenever Adam and Eve were supposed to have existed....can anyone tell me that by the way....when did Adam and Eve existed?

Incest wouldn't have been a problem for Adam and Eve's kids if neither Adam or Eve carried any detrimental recessive alleles.

Philosoft · Oct 26, 2004

Crispie said:
Adam and Eve had daughters, and from there there children married and had children.

Daughters, at least one of which they sent to Nod, presumably for the sole purpose of providing Cain with a wife?

And we know all this from where in the Bible?

Philosoft · Oct 26, 2004

aeonian_mist said:
Incest wouldn't have been a problem for Adam and Eve's kids if neither Adam or Eve carried any detrimental recessive alleles.

Or harmful dominant alleles for that matter.

michabo · Oct 26, 2004

MooTipping said:
of course it's not litteral

But it is occasionally littoral.

Ondoher · Oct 26, 2004

Crispie said:
Adam and Eve had daughters, and from there there children married and had children. It wasnt considered Incest nor was it against the law of God back then because for one reason our genetics werent messed up back then. Thats one of the main reasons why God made incest a sin later on, he was looking out for our health.

Between adam and eve there could be at most four alleles of every gene. Where did the current diversity of genetics come from? How could fewer alleles lead to less of an inbreeding problem?

rmwilliamsll · Oct 27, 2004

MooTipping said:
of course it's not litteral

but the flood is littoral LOL.....
[reps to michabo for this]

all word plays aside.
btw the answer to the OP is preAdamites. those humans living outside of the garden who were not in the Hebraic line that Adam founded.

Blackmarch · Oct 27, 2004

MooTipping said:
I'm not sure if I have the story correct, but how does this all fit together?:

So God created the Earth and all...and he made Adam and Eve. So there's 2 people. They have kids, Cane and Abel, and Abel died. So, how is it possible the Cane went to get a wife? There's no one else on Earth? Where did she come from?! Appear from no where?

Um I think the bible mentions that they had children, but only mentions 2 specifically... I tend to think they had lots of children (I mean adam lived like 800 years after the garden of eden, and only 2 children?).

Nathan David · Oct 27, 2004

Crispie said:
Adam and Eve had daughters, and from there there children married and had children. It wasnt considered Incest nor was it against the law of God back then because for one reason our genetics werent messed up back then.

Where does it say this in the Bible? How did Cain's sister become one of the people from "the land of Nod"? It sounds to me like you're adding your own story into the Bible.

MooTipping · Oct 27, 2004

Allister said:
Sorry to disapoint you but creationism is not true. there is no scientific evidence to support it. Human beings evolved from other species and we were not put here by God. Incest is harmful to life and it would have been equally harmful whenever Adam and Eve were supposed to have existed....can anyone tell me that by the way....when did Adam and Eve existed?

to that!!!!!!!!!!

Raydar · Oct 27, 2004

Nathan David said:
Where does it say this in the Bible? How did Cain's sister become one of the people from "the land of Nod"? It sounds to me like you're adding your own story into the Bible.[/QUOTEOriginally Posted by: CrispieAdam and Eve had daughters, and from there there children married and had children. It wasnt considered Incest nor was it against the law of God back then because for one reason our genetics werent messed up back then.

Read Gen, 5:4 (they had sons and daughters)

Nathan David · Oct 27, 2004

Raydar said:
Read Gen, 5:4 (they had sons and daughters)

But it says nothing about any of the daughters moving to Nod before Cain was cast out, nor does it mention Cain marrying a sister.

Raydar · Oct 27, 2004

Nathan David said:
But it says nothing about any of the daughters moving to Nod before Cain was cast out, nor does it mention Cain marrying a sister.

It also does not mention the number of sons and daughters Adam and Eve had, all their names, where Nod was other then "east of Eden" I will admitt there are assumptions left to the reader.

rmwilliamsll · Oct 27, 2004

I find it interesting that the traditional answer is that he married a sister and yet that was not against the incest laws. People go and say that since the incest laws aren't given until Moses then it was not wrong, nor immoral for him to marry his sisters. Likewise all offspring of Adam and Eve must have engaged in incest....

By that token, not to murder is not given until Moses either, but God punished Cain for it, despite no textual evidence that he was warned not to kill his brother. all you can assume is that mankind knows the law to some extent, despite its not being written down.

But the argument that the law hadn't been given yet is specious since from Rom 1 the gist is that the law of God is written on the hearts of men, since Adam. therefore his children must have known it was wrong to marry their sisters. Since the objection, 'where did their wives come from?' must have been an early objection to the Genesis account, and since there is no word about how to solve the problem in the text. ie, everyone reading it would recognize the problem, no mention of the problem is there or in subsequent commentaries, that i believe this is good evidence that they in fact married other people not in the holy/separate/godly line. this ties in with the traditional interpretation of Gen 6:1-6 as well.

How does it fit together?

Active Member

Conservative Christian

a.g.e.n.t.:.g.u.s.t.o.5

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Active Member

Veteran

Active Member

Orthogonal, Tangential, Tenuously Related

Orthogonal, Tangential, Tenuously Related

reason, evidence

Veteran

avid reader

Legend

Well-Known Member

Active Member

Child of Christ

Well-Known Member

Child of Christ

avid reader

Similar threads