Recent content by William Tanksley Jr

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    Conditional Immortality Supports Annihilationion, Refutes Eternal Conscious Torment and Universalism

    I believe Christians will live forever. I find no puzzle in Paul speaking of Christians who are reconciled "have [each other] back forever," and literally mean that they'll both live literally forever. I have no idea what argument you're trying to make when you say that /eis ton aionas/ doesn't...
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    Conditional Immortality Supports Annihilationion, Refutes Eternal Conscious Torment and Universalism

    That's not what I said. Follow the link I gave; I'm explaining the page they were discussing. They took a statement out of context in order to show that Keizer's a universalist, specifically claiming she was saying that /aion/ cannot mean forever, when actually that quote was teaching that one...
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    Conditional Immortality Supports Annihilationion, Refutes Eternal Conscious Torment and Universalism

    Hmmmmm. Well, you're going to have to deal with the fact that you just had a discussion with me in which you affirmed and defended all the things you're now trying to distance yourself from. I got that idea talking with you specifically, not from the abstract concept of universalists. I'm...
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    Conditional Immortality Supports Annihilationion, Refutes Eternal Conscious Torment and Universalism

    I assumed you were referring to something that would give a reason to believe what you're saying, not to a random list of unsourced and inexplicable claims. Who cares whether she's on a list with a bunch of other people who also didn't ask to be put on that list? This is one of the things that...
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    Conditional Immortality Supports Annihilationion, Refutes Eternal Conscious Torment and Universalism

    First, that doesn't address Barr's criticism of that specific book. Second, it doesn't have anything to do with my comment. Yes, it rightly calls itself a dictionary. I didn't say it couldn't. My criticism had nothing to do with its title. Third, it is certainly not a "lexicon". Every lexicon...
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    Conditional Immortality Supports Annihilationion, Refutes Eternal Conscious Torment and Universalism

    Sorry, I overlooked this. Two points. First, this is an example where hyperbole works the other way. Jesus is with us until the end of the /aion/... but then what happens? The answer: Jesus will still be with us. Second, the Greek plural use of /aion/ implied two aions: the past and the...
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    Conditional Immortality Supports Annihilationion, Refutes Eternal Conscious Torment and Universalism

    My response is to your claim "Most lexicons disagree with the notion that the Hebrew & Greek words OLAM & AION mean "forever" according to how you appear to understand it." Now, you may have actually originally typed that thinking you were only replying to a person who believes "aionios means...
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    Conditional Immortality Supports Annihilationion, Refutes Eternal Conscious Torment and Universalism

    The TDNT is not a lexicon, but rather a theological wordbook. It's a wonderful resource, but it's also the cause of the term "the fallacy of illegitimate totality transfer", coined by Barr while reviewing one of its older editions. In Barr's original use (which is sometimes confused by Carson's...
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    Conditional Immortality Supports Annihilationion, Refutes Eternal Conscious Torment and Universalism

    That's unkind and unwarranted. You're right that the book title /torah/ is better translated "instructions" than "law"; but you're wrong that it's "instructions on how to live." Rather, it's the story of God instructing man about their own weakness and His own holiness. This is one of the...
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    Conditional Immortality Supports Annihilationion, Refutes Eternal Conscious Torment and Universalism

    Thanks. I believe neither of us have need to answer any of the others' questions on that thread; we've both done our best and our positions are clear. I wouldn't mind continuing the discussion, but I think given the history nothing new would be added. That's not necessary. You did claim that...
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    Conditional Immortality Supports Annihilationion, Refutes Eternal Conscious Torment and Universalism

    Why not? Onesimus was a rebellious unbeliever, and because he ran away he met Paul and was converted. Now he will live forever. Why shouldn't this cause Paul to hope that Philemon will be reconciled to him in forgiveness, thus making it sure that both will live forever in brotherhood? I don't...
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    Conditional Immortality Supports Annihilationion, Refutes Eternal Conscious Torment and Universalism

    That's just not true. You know that /aion/ depends on context, and you said so. Yet you won't talk about its context, to the point you now claim it's "something quite different." Thank you. But no, everything you said there I'd replied to several times (and, of course, vice versa; we were...
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    Conditional Immortality Supports Annihilationion, Refutes Eternal Conscious Torment and Universalism

    The Bible says man himself has a death sentence, not "man's body." Christianity has always affirmed the ultimate life or death of the WHOLE human person, not of a body isolated from a spirit/soul. It's true (or at least I believe) that the spirit of man temporarily exists without the body during...
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    Conditional Immortality Supports Annihilationion, Refutes Eternal Conscious Torment and Universalism

    The context in which /olam/ does mean "forever" is the phrase /l'olam/, and the context in which /aion/ means "forever" is the phrase /eis ton aiona/. You've implied that "most lexicons disagree", but this isn't true; lexicons that list stock phrases such as /eis ton aiona/ all list its...
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    Conditional Immortality Supports Annihilationion, Refutes Eternal Conscious Torment and Universalism

    The Father is indeed kind to all; He describes His kindness in many places. He provides life, food, rain... What He _also_ consistently says is that it is not good that fallen man would live forever (Gen 3:22). It's good that he lives -- it's not good that he live forever. For this reason, God...