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    The Iconoclastic Rapture

    I just found this on another forum by a poster going by the handle Origen. He backs up what I initially said only he does a far better job. The problem in regard to the Church Fathers is that isolated quotes are not understood within the context of their respective theologies as a whole or even...
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    The Iconoclastic Rapture

    While lets see. Speaking of the great tribulation in book V and 28 Irenaeus states 4. And therefore throughout all time, man, having been moulded at the beginning by the hands of God, that is, of the Son and of the Spirit, is made after the image and likeness of God: the chaff, indeed, which...
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    The Iconoclastic Rapture

    While all you have to do is read the context and you would easily see it is speaking of the church. Jesus is talking to His disciples in verse 9 He states 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. Obviously...
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    The Iconoclastic Rapture

    Huh! you are the one making the claim that Irenaeus used the term "caught up" to mean a rapture but have supplied no backing for your assumption. Whereas I gave the scripture Irenaeus was referring to and showed by it your understanding of what Irenaeus said was in error. So unless you can...
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    The Iconoclastic Rapture

    Like I said you are simply reading into Irenaeus what you want to see. As I show via the scripture (MT.24) that Irenaeus was referring to; the ELECT are still on the earth during this time. And you have not refuted that point. And as I pointed out "caught up" according to the scriptures...
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    The Iconoclastic Rapture

    Are you sure you are not reading into Irenaeus what you want to see? I think you got "caught up" in that Irenaeus used the words "caught up" and jumped to the conclusion Irenaeus was speaking of a rapture. Irenaeus is NOT talking about the church or the elect or anyone else for that matter...
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    The belief “God having perfect complete foreknowledge” called Open Theism?

    Just because orthodox teaches something does not mean they are correct. and you did not address your illogical conclusion that God is not in time and yet is omnipresent.
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    The Iconoclastic Rapture

    or selling book
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    The belief “God having perfect complete foreknowledge” called Open Theism?

    I fully agree Oscarr. The reason God knows the future is not because he lives in the future it is because He is the great architect and WORKS to bring every part of His grand plan together. God simply knows everything that HE is going to do and as nothing can stay His hand He knows the END...
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    The belief “God having perfect complete foreknowledge” called Open Theism?

    then you must have a different definition then everyone else.
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    The belief “God having perfect complete foreknowledge” called Open Theism?

    Agreed. What the heck is an "eternal now"? If everything is an eternal now then there is no past, or future. there is just now
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    The belief “God having perfect complete foreknowledge” called Open Theism?

    And it is logically impossible for God to be omnipresent and not be in time
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    Question about eternal damnation

    I didn't think so.
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    Question about eternal damnation

    Oh good grief. really? been answered a dozen times already, If you have no understanding of spiritual things, and it is getting painfully obvious you do not, nothing more I say will even register with you. Of course they are still alive, the death is the death of the old man, not the man...