Recent content by Oholiab

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    Life from nonlife for Oholiab

    Ive wadded through this kind of cryptic verbage and dumptruck semantics, its a waste of time. You didnt need a lexicon of biological terminology to understand my post. Im not going to use one for the reply. Ill tell you whats easy to understand, the point of this exercise is antitheistic...
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    Metaphysics and evolution for Oholiab

    Scientific evidence Bacon developed the philosophy of natural science but it was Newton who actually established it. He did a lot of experiments with prisms. He wanted to prove that light was actually made up of seven colors. at that time it was belived that the colors from a prism were from...
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    Life from nonlife for Oholiab

    Ok fine, my Biology 101 class and a couple of web pages hardly makes me well read on the microbiology verbage. I still think cells forming in some primodial soup is fantasy.
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    Are there any creationists willing to debate?

    Im really not used to a discussion forum of this size, I keep jumping in and out of threads but I'll try to jump in here and try to keep up with it if I can. First off evolution is not natural science per se, its a synthesis of science and philosophy. It is essentially an arguement against...
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    Who invented Science?

    "I notice you conviently forgot to include creationism in that list of yours. At one time, creationism was the prevailing view. But no longer." Creationism was never a prevailing view even though it would have been considered common sense that God made the universe, and still is if the truth...
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    Scienece vs Church: Evolution

    "Transitional forms are generally lacking at the species level, but they are abundant between larger groups." Stephen Jay Gould, Hen's Teeth and Horse's Toes, p.261 Hen's teeth, horses toes and finches adapting and changing is not a lower primate becoming man. BTW I did support my...
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    Scienece vs Church: Evolution

    So Im being intellectually self decieved by believing that proof in natural science has to be clear, certain and distinct, in and of itself. I have to be an agnostic because God cannot be proven. God is the self evident, a priori, first cause evolution is pretending to be. I think the primary...
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    Scienece vs Church: Evolution

    ... this knowledge he holds with certainty from reason and experience...(St Augustine ). What the venerated St Augustine is describing is knowledge that is clear, distinct and certain, in and of itself. Not the obscure modern mythology of natural sciences elaborate illusion called...
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    Who invented Science?

    "Do you even know the process an idea goes through to even earn the title of a scientific theory?" Actually I do understand that process, do you know where it came from. My main issue here is not with science per se but bogus arguments of science falsely so called. As far as scientists being...
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    Who invented Science?

    All caps? I have no idea what you are talking about. If my posts are coming up as all caps its not because I wrote it that way.
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    Who invented Science?

    My point is the experimentum crucis is considered all of science and therefore all of knowledge. That is how it came to be in the place of God as the source of wisdom and knowledge. Just as the Children of Israel fashioned a golden calf saying this is the god that delivered you out of Egypt...
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    Who invented Science?

    I stumbled into the evolution/creation thread and I wonder is anyone interested in discussing science in here. I dont think I'll get any argument that science is a human invention, even though it is worshiped and served like a pagan god. Science is about tools, its first and foremost a...
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    Are Buddhists Atheists?

    What you will find when looking at Buddism is that God Himself is not an issue. There are a lot of simularities to Christianity in that Buddism is a reform of Hinduism just as Protestant theology was a reform of Catholicism.Siddhartha Gottoma was making the claim that anyone could be enlightened...
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    What history proves the Bible?

    Let me see if I have this straight, the growing pile of evidence as described is actually a lack of evidence. Cities are torn down and rebuilt continuously. If I wanted to build something where your house sits I would have to tear it down. That means that most of the evidence of your existance...