Recent content by Mike Etemadi

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    Meaning of Coming in Clouds, Stars, Sun and the Moon

    I take it that you're refering to Acts 1. It is entirely MEANINGFUL. Here are the verses: 9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men...
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    Meaning of Coming in Clouds, Stars, Sun and the Moon

    Praise the Lord! I am certain that you and I are in a definite minority. Just about everyone I talk to, expects a physical, riding on the clouds descent. When I press the issue and ask the same type of questions that I have asked here, they end up telling me that "with God everything is...
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    Meaning of Coming in Clouds, Stars, Sun and the Moon

    Allow me to also add share some more of my thoughts here. Christ said that He had come from the sky, from Heaven - that He came forth from God - while He was born of Mary, His Mother. But when He declared that He had come from Heaven, it is clear that He did not mean the blue firmament but that...
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    Luke 6: 24-26

    O SON OF UTTERANCE! Turn thy face unto Mine and renounce all save Me; for My sovereignty endureth and My dominion perisheth not. If thou seekest another than Me, yea, if thou searchest the universe for evermore, thy quest will be in vain.
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    Meaning of Coming in Clouds, Stars, Sun and the Moon

    Wonderfully put!!! This physical world will not be destroyed precisely for the observations that you have made. My "minority" position, rather has to do with the way I see the significance of the prophecies regarding the clouds, etc. Do you or anyone else share my understanding the way I have...
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    Meaning of Coming in Clouds, Stars, Sun and the Moon

    Are we to read the scriptures blindly and not seek the inner meaning intended by them? How can a star Trillions of miles away from earth and millions of times bigger than earth fall upon earth? Besides, one should be fair and ask what in the world should falling stars have to do with the coming...
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    Meaning of Coming in Clouds, Stars, Sun and the Moon

    So are you saying that Christ, in His second coming, will not come in the clouds from this physical sky? That the moon will not turn into blood literally. That the sun will not be darkened literally and neither will the stars fall uponthe earth literally (they could not anyway)?
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    Meaning of Coming in Clouds, Stars, Sun and the Moon

    Patty, It is a lovely explanation. Please explain how you see this relate to the fulfillment of the prophecy regarding the second coming? That is, in His second coming He is supposed to come inthe clouds. Do you take this literallY? Patmosman_sga, Acts cites the whole text in...
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    Meaning of Coming in Clouds, Stars, Sun and the Moon

    You wrote, "The same goes for the sun, the moon, the stars, etc. All of these are used repeatedly in the Old Testament to refer to some act of God within human history that is so decisive as to literally disrupt the whole created order. " 1. In light of your statement, how do explain the...
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    Meaning of Coming in Clouds, Stars, Sun and the Moon

    Seraphiel, Stars are millions of times bigger than earth. How can they fall upon the earth? Besides, if the Lord rides in the clouds and comes from this physical sky, He will have to make thousands of re-entries to be seen by all the people. You see the earth is round!!! And furthermore, is...
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    Verses that say that the Bible is infallible, and perfect?

    Being afraid that I might be called a heretic for citing a prayer not included in the Bible, I will not mention the source of this prayer. I believe it to be appropriate for the occasion: "O my God! O my God! Unite the hearts of Thy servants, and reveal to them Thy great purpose. May they...
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    Exegesis of the Epistle of Jude

    I am not able to sleep here. Which part of what I am saying you do not understand? Do you see the salvation in a physical Jesus or in a spiritual Jesus? There was no Jesus with bodily form before being born of Mary. His strength was never dependant upon having a physical form. Anyway...
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    Exegesis of the Epistle of Jude

    I am not refering to the text of Jude here. Again, going back to Act 4:11,12 ( ref. #10 posting), Christ is to be accepted as the headstone and that there is no one else in whom we can seek salvation. But since Christ has always existed, this acceptance does not have to do anything with the...
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    Exegesis of the Epistle of Jude

    In other words, the body of Christ as born of Mary does not have to anything with Him being our salvation.
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    Exegesis of the Epistle of Jude

    Going back to your #10 posting, we do believe that the Lord is our salvation. The Lord is the Lord irrespective of time. He is the same whether today, tomorrow or yesterday. Therefore, it would be my understanding that the salvation has not resided in the physical person of our Lord but rather...