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    What Do You Think The Church Is Today?

    why is there not prayer in heaven? that is what I have been explaining this whole time. actually i think i answered the way not later and you disagree with it. im not saying it isn't addressed to God or not saying thanks to him, i said that in a earlier response. what i don't like it that it...
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    What Do You Think The Church Is Today?

    and my entire point is there is no prayer in heaven. because they talk to God face to face. celestial [people in heaven] beings don't need prayer for the reason of their there with God. I never said numerous but, one] there is no praise to God for helping Constantine through his years to...
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    What Do You Think The Church Is Today?

    then please enlighten me as to were she is if not in heaven? how can it not? actually were both right.... and my definition encompassed asking as well so my definition didn't "conveniently" leave any thing out. you should take your own advice then. I agree if it is with in...
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    What Do You Think The Church Is Today?

    your kidding right you said Mary is able to pray when she is dead..... that is the point I am making. even if the hymn isn't worshiping Constantine, the logistical factor of it is wrong. Pray is not a Synonym for ask, where are you getting your information?? Pray - to offer devout...
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    What Do You Think The Church Is Today?

    If you really believe he was the saint you say he was so be it, my opinion is opposed, because exemplar he was not! if you really want me to get in to the meat of who Constantine was just say so.... ill be glad to tell you who he was and what he contributed to church Do you not under stand how...
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    What Do You Think The Church Is Today?

    branchofthevine, are you a organic church believer? that is kinda what I am getting from what you are saying.
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    What Do You Think The Church Is Today?

    "That he [Constantine] preserved in peace for many years," that was Gods work not Constantine, that was direct praise to Constantine for protecting people, when it was God not him. then the second line. "Through the prayers of the Theotokos, O only lover of mankind." that wouldn't even be...
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    What Do You Think The Church Is Today?

    incor, I think I have a idea of what your saying, and if I read you right, I totally agree that churches need to not focus on money and if they get money they need to use it to better others lives.
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    What Do You Think The Church Is Today?

    ya it is addressed to god saying, [ paraphrased ] thanks God, praise Constantine for saving us. you know what a hymn is right?
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    What Do You Think The Church Is Today?

    because they are two separate concepts of how the church works, one is 1st century the other is 21st century. there completely separate and don't function together in the modern church. Then you didn't read what I said very well. you just took this statement totally out of context bravo...
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    What Do You Think The Church Is Today?

    so you are telling me that the church doesn't have a teacher [pastor] and that the students [congregation] are not told what the bible says. and that Christians don't sit there week after week but rather they all gather together and ask questions and teach each other? that is what your saying...
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    What Do You Think The Church Is Today?

    look at how church functions and you will see it, I don't how am I bringing an opinion on a factual bases of how church functions? most people attend church because they think it is there God appeasing duty to gain Gods' love. people hear about unconditional love but don't actually show that...
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    What Do You Think The Church Is Today?

    Trogool, The fact is my view of church isn't negative because i want it to be but because it is fact. the church is in every respect today a institution. the fact is that most people go to church to get Told what to believe about God and the bible hence "spoon feed" if you will. and being...
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    What Do You Think The Church Is Today?

    what about the idea of institutionalized church? that being that the church functions as an classroom and the congregation is spoon feed and sits passively by being told what to believe, and in turn the sterilizes what God is trying to do? trogool, what do you mean by an organization?
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    What Do You Think The Church Is Today?

    My question is simple, when you think about the church and the body and all the things they do today what comes to mind? negative or other wise please answer.